07-17-2024, 08:09 PM
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#13141
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I love how posting PP's actual quotes regarding trans youth is considered "fear mongering." They weren't even taken out of context and you guys are still going "Nuh uh."
That you're willing to put trans youth to the sword to pay for the crimes of the Liberal Party says a lot.
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07-17-2024, 08:55 PM
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#13142
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
I love how posting PP's actual quotes regarding trans youth is considered "fear mongering." They weren't even taken out of context and you guys are still going "Nuh uh."
That you're willing to put trans youth to the sword to pay for the crimes of the Liberal Party says a lot.
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This is such bad faith argumentation. There is no inherently moral choice here. The actions of bad governance and wasting funds indirectly kills people. To discount the harm of bad governance against the harm to a specific group is rather myopic.
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07-17-2024, 10:07 PM
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#13143
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Originally Posted by GGG
This is such bad faith argumentation. There is no inherently moral choice here. The actions of bad governance and wasting funds indirectly kills people. To discount the harm of bad governance against the harm to a specific group is rather myopic.
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You don't think there's a moral difference between incompetence and malice?
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07-17-2024, 10:16 PM
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#13144
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Originally Posted by GGG
This is such bad faith argumentation. There is no inherently moral choice here. The actions of bad governance and wasting funds indirectly kills people. To discount the harm of bad governance against the harm to a specific group is rather myopic.
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Can you elaborate?
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07-17-2024, 10:21 PM
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#13145
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Also finding it a bit amusing that many of the same posters who have, for years, blindly regurgitated red scare rhetoric regarding the NDP, and scream about the NDP destroying the energy industry if they gain power, are now whining about fear mongering.
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07-17-2024, 10:27 PM
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#13146
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Can you elaborate?
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Poor governance and spending can lead to inflation. If / when people start to lose more than they can bear, perhaps they consider taking their own lives. Not sure if that’s what this was about.
Just a couple pennies.
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07-17-2024, 10:46 PM
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#13147
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
Poor governance and spending can lead to inflation. If / when people start to lose more than they can bear, perhaps they consider taking their own lives. Not sure if that’s what this was about.
Just a couple pennies.
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I think there are easier and more direct lines to draw. Government corruption leads to less money available to the public, leading to less spending on health care, leading to longer wait times, etc.
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07-17-2024, 10:56 PM
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#13148
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I think there are easier and more direct lines to draw. Government corruption leads to less money available to the public, leading to less spending on health care, leading to longer wait times, etc.
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Yes.
There are many lines we can draw.
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07-17-2024, 11:13 PM
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#13149
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Also finding it a bit amusing that many of the same posters who have, for years, blindly regurgitated red scare rhetoric regarding the NDP, and scream about the NDP destroying the energy industry if they gain power, are now whining about fear mongering.
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Same people who fear monger about Liberal bills that never turn out as dramatic as the fear mongering makes them out to be.
Same people who fear monger about inflation.
Same people who fear monger about trans people, homeless people, the oogey boogey capital L “Left.”
These people are scared ####less of literally everything but you point out real things someone whose boots have exclusive claim to their tongue said and they have an absolute fit lol.
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07-17-2024, 11:36 PM
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#13150
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
You don't think there's a moral difference between incompetence and malice?
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I didn’t suggest that.
I said making a blanket statement like you did without weighing the potential harms of each government and accepting that the calculation of harms will differ based on each persons expectations on what each party will do is very narrow minded.
You essentially state if you vote conservatives you hate trans people. That isn’t a good faith position.
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07-18-2024, 07:31 AM
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#13151
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Oh rubecube and Pepsifree at it again? Must be another Liberal scandal to deflect away from
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07-18-2024, 07:36 AM
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#13152
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Originally Posted by Firebot
Oh rubecube and Pepsifree at it again? Must be another Liberal scandal to deflect away from
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You realize that you’re an adult man and can continue talking about whatever you want to talk about regardless of what we’re talking about, right?
I’m guessing “deflection” is another word you don’t actually know the definition of.
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07-18-2024, 07:53 AM
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#13153
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I love how posting PP's actual quotes regarding trans youth is considered "fear mongering." They weren't even taken out of context and you guys are still going "Nuh uh."
That you're willing to put trans youth to the sword to pay for the crimes of the Liberal Party says a lot.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You realize that you’re an adult man and can continue talking about whatever you want to talk about regardless of what we’re talking about, right?
I’m guessing “deflection” is another word you don’t actually know the definition of.
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So tell me oh wise adult one where the trans youth talk suddenly started? The last post I see is Fuzz's July 8 posts
Is there a new quote I am missing, because I didn't see it, and Fuzz's quotes didn't show anything alarming to me targeting trans youth. Saying stuff like "putting trans youth to the sword to pay for the crimes of the Liberal Party says a lot" looks like deflection and baseless fearmongering to me
You clowns aren't here for a discussion.
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07-18-2024, 07:59 AM
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#13154
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 Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Hi Firebot, can you get me excited for a Pierre Poilievre populist government on their own merit, and without referring to Trudeau or the Liberals?
I asked this a couple of weeks ago and still haven't received a response from any of the party faithful yet.
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07-18-2024, 08:03 AM
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#13155
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Originally Posted by Firebot
So tell me oh wise adult one where the trans youth talk suddenly started? The last post I see is Fuzz's July 8 posts
Is there a new quote I am missing, because I didn't see it, and Fuzz's quotes didn't show anything alarming to me targeting trans youth. Saying stuff like "putting trans youth to the sword to pay for the crimes of the Liberal Party says a lot" looks like deflection and baseless fearmongering to me
You clowns aren't here for a discussion.
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I don’t know, he posted something and I replied to it. That’s called a discussion.
I don’t see you weighing in on the latest scandal either. Is talking about rube and I dEfLeCtIon!?!?!?
Stay mad tho hahaha.
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07-18-2024, 08:05 AM
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#13156
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Hi Firebot, can you get me excited for a Pierre Poilievre populist government on their own merit, and without referring to Trudeau or the Liberals?
I asked this a couple of weeks ago and still haven't received a response from any of the party faithful yet.
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Lemme get this for you:
DEFLECTION! You are a CLOWN! THE USUALLLLLS!!!!!
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07-18-2024, 08:05 AM
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#13157
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#1 Goaltender
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Flow of discussion
Randy Boissonnault was advancing his private business from Trudeau’s Cabinet
How did Randy get involved with such a shady business partner to begin with?
I would really like to see a campaign platform by all candidates in the next election making corruption something with severe punishments.
Rubecube: WHATABOUT Conservatives? They hate trans youth! VOTE CONSERVATIVE A TRANS YOUTH FALLS TO THE SWORD
Pepsifree: YEAH DONT TELL US WE ARE FEARMONGERING WHEN WE ARE FEARMONGERING THATS SO LAME, POINT OUT REAL THINGS AND THEY HAVE AN ABSOLUTE FIT LOL LOOK I CAN TYPE ALL CAPS MAKES MY POINT BETTER OH HERES A MEME LOL
Riveting stuff guys.
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07-18-2024, 08:10 AM
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#13158
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Originally Posted by Firebot
Flow of discussion
Randy Boissonnault was advancing his private business from Trudeau’s Cabinet
How did Randy get involved with such a shady business partner to begin with?
I would really like to see a campaign platform by all candidates in the next election making corruption something with severe punishments.
Rubecube: WHATABOUT Conservatives? They hate trans youth! VOTE CONSERVATIVE A TRANS YOUTH FALLS TO THE SWORD
Pepsifree: YEAH DONT TELL US WE ARE FEARMONGERING WHEN WE ARE FEARMONGERING THATS SO LAME, POINT OUT REAL THINGS AND THEY HAVE AN ABSOLUTE FIT LOL LOOK I CAN TYPE ALL CAPS MAKES MY POINT BETTER OH HERES A MEME LOL
Riveting stuff guys.
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Those are two different conversations. Do you know how message boards work or do you need that explained to you like you’re five as well?
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07-18-2024, 08:11 AM
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#13159
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Looooooooooooooch
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Forget all this crap, can you please confirm if DEI has infiltrated the Canadian government as well? This is more important!!
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07-18-2024, 08:12 AM
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#13160
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I think the Liberals are bad.
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