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Old 06-30-2023, 09:48 AM   #13061
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There's not a chance you step foot east of Saskatchewan for any reason.
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Old 06-30-2023, 09:55 AM   #13062
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A lot of talk on here post election that we would lose our best and brightest.
Turns out they are still here.

I don’t think you understand the term “net”.
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:21 AM   #13063
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A lot of talk on here post election that we would lose our best and brightest.
Turns out they are still here.
The numbers you posted are all pre-election... do you even read what you post?
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:23 AM   #13064
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https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions

In 1820 90% lived in extreme poverty, 1950 2/3rds of the world lived in extreme poverty, 42% did in 1982, 10% do today.

So using 1982 as a defence point we know at least 32% are significantly better off.

Literacy 1950 around 60% today 86%
Child mortality 1950 around 20%, 4% today
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The world is a better place for most people. Many of these people would cease to exist were the world not a better place.

I’d also challange 400 million as the correct number for this debate as the total world population wouldn’t be what it is today if we hadn’t solved nitrogen fixing. So if people weren’t better off we wouldn’t see the growth. So if you look at 1982 world pop of say 4.6 billion we’d really be evaluating 230 million people for which the world was worse because 100% of the people who didn’t exist previously the world is certainly a better place.

What year are you measuring against. When was the world great again?
Late to the party, but I agree, things are getting better and better on many fronts. What I worry about, is we are "borrowing" at an unsustainable rate to make these gains from an ecological standpoint:




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I need a bigger monitor now Bill, thanks.
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Old 06-30-2023, 12:09 PM   #13066
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The numbers you posted are all pre-election... do you even read what you post?
Even Yoho doesn't want to give Staples clicks
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Old 06-30-2023, 12:27 PM   #13067
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1674836950522671104

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Old 06-30-2023, 12:45 PM   #13068
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Wait but I thought we didn't want that many immigrants in Canada anymore?
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Wait but I thought we didn't want that many immigrants in Canada anymore?

These immigrant are okay because it fits a narrative.
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When is this mass exodus I keep hearing about. Wasn’t that the biggest threat to our existence in Alberta…lol

https://twitter.com/user/status/1674762119785648129
Hopefully when all of those BC and Ontario transplants start voting we might get a more sane government in place
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That's my prediction too. The conservative vote will become more unstable with net migration to the province, especially if it's young people / the middle class coming for affordable real estate and steady employment.
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Old 06-30-2023, 01:52 PM   #13072
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Hopefully when all of those BC and Ontario transplants start voting we might get a more sane government in place
This is the funniest thing about conservatives pumping their chests over these numbers - people bring their politics with them. And the vast majority of people are moving to the big cities for jobs and homes, a voting base the conservatives are quickly losing their foothold in in Alberta.
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Old 06-30-2023, 01:59 PM   #13073
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For what it's worth, on our farm we just dedicated 20 acres of trees as a nature reserve with no intent on using it for cattle or any other agriculture. Though, we may move our bees there one day.

Trouble is that is 100% lost income, but worth it, because the environment is our most precious resource.
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For what it's worth, on our farm we just dedicated 20 acres of trees as a nature reserve with no intent on using it for cattle or any other agriculture. Though, we may move our bees there one day.

Trouble is that is 100% lost income, but worth it, because the environment is our most precious resource.
Depending on the terrain, you may reap other benefits such as berries, mushrooms, natural herbs, or a relaxing environment for meditation.
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For what it's worth, on our farm we just dedicated 20 acres of trees as a nature reserve with no intent on using it for cattle or any other agriculture. Though, we may move our bees there one day.

Trouble is that is 100% lost income, but worth it, because the environment is our most precious resource.
That’s great. Our old farm (on the prairies) had 100’s of trees, and acres of nice natural undisturbed land for various wildlife habitats from deer and pheasants to burrowing owls and rattlesnakes. Current owners bulldozed the trees and ploughed under every last acre, they now make money from property line to property line but it does not look much like a farm anymore. It’s quite sad actually, can’t even drive by there anymore.
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For what it's worth, on our farm we just dedicated 20 acres of trees as a nature reserve with no intent on using it for cattle or any other agriculture. Though, we may move our bees there one day.

Trouble is that is 100% lost income, but worth it, because the environment is our most precious resource.
You know, you could lure more bees there if you put a pile of sugar on that land.
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You know, you could lure more bees there if you put a pile of sugar on that land.
Where'd you get the sugar for that tea?!
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Old 06-30-2023, 04:52 PM   #13078
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In Bill's graphs I saw Berkley Earth data.. that made me remember that the Berkey Earth data was originally partially funded by the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation because it was supposed to be an alternative data set to show that the earth wasn't warming.. and instead it resulted in the # of data sets showing warming going from 3 to 4!

Good times...
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Hopefully when all of those BC and Ontario transplants start voting we might get a more sane government in place
Alberta has had net positive provincial immigration for decades. It’s not as though this is anything new.
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That just reinforces his point. Look how much has changed in Alberta in 20 years. The NDP weren't far from winning, maybe next time the continued trend of progressive increasing their vote totals in Alberta will continue?
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