2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[dammage79]

I thought the Flyers had him traded almost at the deadline.

Seems like a mutual situation.

I'd still take it flyer on him in CGY. Worst case scenario it doesn't pan out.

Oilers 3rd for his rights.

[TheScorpion]

I'd definitely take a look at Patrick but there's definitely something to be said about the climate/chinooks potentially exacerbating a migraine disorder. They'd have to do their homework on it and consult with doctors before they took that swing.

[DeluxeMoustache]

^ definitely. Chinooks and migraines are not a good mix

[Poe969]

Migraine treatment and medication has come leaps and bounds in the past couple of years. Especially at a young age, it can be outgrown or treated a lot more than it used to and Chinook may not even trigger them. So many different triggers and treatments now.

100%worth taking a chance on this kid...then they can expose Backlund!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Migraine treatment and medication has come leaps and bounds in the past couple of years. Especially at a young age, it can be outgrown or treated a lot more than it used to and Chinook may not even trigger them. So many different triggers and treatments now.

100%worth taking a chance on this kid...then they can expose Backlund!

That would be great. Got links to medical papers?

I’m serious, I know people who suffer from migraines and would be interested

Edit: cool, found some links about Fremanezumab. Thanks!

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/a...study-suggests

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Nolan Patrick has reportedly asked for a trade

https://info.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news...BH91i7osExDKfE

Vancouver might be a landing spot.

[Poe969]

I'm part of the American migraine foundation, they have all kinds of literature and supports available

https://americanmigrainefoundation.org/

[Harry Lime]

A second and Glen Gawdin/Matt Philips (since they are not being played in Calgary anyway), is a very reasonable price. I agree that it would free up a Backlund trade where Calgary could essentially 'lose' the trade and still come out ahead in the aggregate.

(I would even take Tyler Johnson and a 3rd for Backlund, making TBL an even bigger beast in the east, and giving Calgary a natural RW that wouldn't need protecting in the expansion draft. Calgary 'loses' the trade but is better on the ice, and Patrick could develop into a young Backlund. Get to it!)

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Oilers 3rd & Emil Heineman for Patrick

And then Heineman will end up better than all of them haha

[Lanny_McDonald]

Wait, dump Monahan and Backlund for bad years but be willing to take on Nolan Patrick?

[blender]

Originally Posted by Bonded

And then Heineman will end up better than all of them haha

No kidding.
From everything I've heard Heineman is the better player right now.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Wait, dump Monahan and Backlund for bad years but be willing to take on Nolan Patrick?

Apparently they are garbage and having cap space would be better. Its funny how Tampa and Vegas with negative cap space are two of the more relevant contenders.

Cap space has never won anything.

[Poe969]

They aren't the best teams because they spend to the cap, Tampa has high pedigree players from high draft picks, Vegas is good because everyone kept giving them assets and high profile players want to go there.

This team can't become good overnight, it's going to take a lot of work and time with a bit of luck. Trading for a kid like Patrick and him all of a sudden becoming the player he could be would help. If they gave up Backlund for Patrick, worse case scenario is they're in the same spot they are now.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by blender

Apparently they are garbage and having cap space would be better. Its funny how Tampa and Vegas with negative cap space are two of the more relevant contenders.

Cap space has never won anything.

No. But players acquired by filling that cap space have won a lot. Flexibility is very important.

[blender]

Guys, obviously spending to the cap is not enough on its own. I was making a joke about how many people on this board are constantly banging on about clearing cap space, like it will automatically make the Flames better.


It's the end of the second round and I'm a Flames fan wishing we had less cap flexibility because we signed Tyler Toffoli. Cut me some slack, here.

[Wolfman]

If the option is Monahan for Patrick, I'll keep Monahan thanks

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

If the option is Monahan for Patrick, I'll keep Monahan thanks

Monahan has had three 30 goal seasons. Patrick has had two 30 point seasons. I can't imagine how anyone could possibly argue Monahan for Patrick is good value.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I thought the Flyers had him traded almost at the deadline.

Seems like a mutual situation.

I'd still take it flyer on him in CGY. Worst case scenario it doesn't pan out.

Oilers 3rd for his rights.

Well yeah but it will cost more than that

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Monahan has had three 30 goal seasons. Patrick has had two 30 point seasons. I can't imagine how anyone could possibly argue Monahan for Patrick is good value.

The only possible argument that could be advanced would involve the relative health of the players. One would have to believe that health wise, Monny is completely broken, and simply removing his cap space equates to good value. And if that were in fact true, why would the Flyers want him? In any event, we don’t know that.

Presumably, the Flyers cannot take on so much cap in trading Patrick. The best draft pick/prospect offered likely gets him.

I could see the Hawks take a chance on him. See if playing with Kane jump starts his offensive game. Johnny might do the same thing for him. It’s likely a fairly low cost gamble worth taking.


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[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The only possible argument that could be advanced would involve the relative health of the players. One would have to believe that health wise, Monny is completely broken, and simply removing his cap space equates to good value. And if that were in fact true, why would the Flyers want him? In any event, we don’t know that.

Which is total crap. Even in a year where he was obviously impacted by a hip injury he still played 50 games and put up 28 points. That's 19 points more than Nolan Patrick. And if we're talking about being completely broken, do people need to be reminded that Patrick missed an entire season because of his neurological issues, and was complete trash in his return?

Presumably, the Flyers cannot take on so much cap in trading Patrick. The best draft pick/prospect offered likely gets him.

Someone will make a stupid offer, thinking draft pedigree means anything. Please God, don't let it be the Flames.

I could see the Hawks take a chance on him. See if playing with Kane jump starts his offensive game. Johnny might do the same thing for him. It’s likely a fairly low cost gamble worth taking.

Unless he comes for a seventh round pick, the risk is too high.

I don't get what people see in him, other than the fact he was drafted 2nd overall. What part of his game is so good that he's worth making a move for? Not a great skater. Doesn't exactly display crazy skill with the puck. Absolutely atrocious when it comes to a two way game, being completely void of any defensive awareness. And his GAF meter is always running near empty. What is it about Patrick that makes him so attractive, because every time I've watched him play in the NHL he is the worst player on the ice for his team?