[Rumour] Dreger: Bowen Byram trade talks heating up. Calgary one of many teams interested

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Hamilton was taking a distressed asset for relatively cheap that was then flipped for better value. I’m never going to get too worried about a trade like that. The Hamonic trade definitely sucked but he wasn’t close to Hamilton talent wise.

Yeah that was specifically buying a low contract with term to fit in the cap. That’s it. And it was a bad play.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Seems and like are the most important words there and it’s all speculative at this point so no sense in getting bent out of shape constantly over things that haven’t happened yet.

Um...you must be new here!

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah that was specifically buying a low contract with term to fit in the cap. That’s it. And it was a bad play.

Exactly. The Hamilton trade tree is still going for the Flames and I don’t think they would have been better of even if you pretend the Flames took Barzal at 15 instead of getting Lindholm and Hanifin.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Exactly. The Hamilton trade tree is still going for the Flames and I don’t think they would have been better of even if you pretend the Flames took Barzal at 15 instead of getting Lindholm and Hanifin.

The trade was fine along with happened afterwards. What I was asking was do you think it was just filling in the gaps ? It signaled the Flames were all in making a deal like that. At least with that team they had stars and top picks. This version of the Flames isn’t close. It’s probably further away.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The trade was fine along with happened afterwards. What I was asking was do you think it was just filling in the gaps ? It signaled the Flames were all in making a deal like that. At least with that team they had stars and top picks. This version of the Flames isn’t close. It’s probably further away.

It was good asset management. I don’t think it signalled they were all in by any means. They traded a mid 1st for a potential top pairing dman and that’s a trade that should be made every chance a team can get. Once again, to me the Hamonic trade is when they went all in as his contract was the most enticing thing about him.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The trade was fine along with happened afterwards. What I was asking was do you think it was just filling in the gaps ? It signaled the Flames were all in making a deal like that. At least with that team they had stars and top picks. This version of the Flames isn’t close. It’s probably further away.

What!? All in with who? No it didn’t. It was stocking our team with young high end talent that we didn’t get in the draft. This is absurd.

[Strange Brew]

If they are going to trade any first round pick without knowing where it will fall, it better have some protection attached.

[dino7c]

Posters who insist the Flames did badly in the Hanifin trade and need to "learn from it" think the pick is too valuble to even listen to offers on lol

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Posters who insist the Flames did badly in the Hanifin trade and need to "learn from it" think the pick is too valuble to even listen to offers on lol

Our 1st round pick? There is a generational player available next year. And we might finish bottom 5. It is very valuable.

[Sandman]

Even without said generational player, the top-16 of the first-round of the 2026 Draft looks way to good to give up in a trade.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Our 1st round pick? There is a generational player available next year. And we might finish bottom 5. It is very valuable.

I’m guessing “the pick” in reference to the Hanifin trade is the pick that was actually in the Hanifin trade.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Our 1st round pick? There is a generational player available next year. And we might finish bottom 5. It is very valuable.

Did I say our pick or did I say the pick from the Hanifin trade?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Why? Because they want it? So what? Why would you assume that the Flames were dangling that at all? We’re a ####ing lottery team. This is stupid.

So you think when the Sabres said they were open to trading Byram and set out their expectations, Conroy offered a 2nd? I don't think real-world NHL GMs make insultingly low-balled offers. Teams of people on each side crunch analytics data and comparables, then arrive at something pretty close. Any serious offer for Byram (or Miller) from any other team included a 1st or equivalent young player/prospect.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Posters who insist the Flames did badly in the Hanifin trade and need to "learn from it" think the pick is too valuble to even listen to offers on lol

The part about the Hanifin trade that stung was the Knights just needed to win the first round and the 3rd they got would have been a 2nd so it would have been an unprotected 1st, 2nd and Mirimanov which was a reasonable return.

I used to want to keep that Vegas pick at all costs and still think it is a very valuable chip but with them picking up Marner I am having a very hard time seeing that team fall off at all. I don’t want to use it for Byram but there are other players I would be fine with them using the pick in a trade

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

So you think when the Sabres said they were open to trading Byram and set out their expectations, Conroy offered a 2nd? I don't think real-world NHL GMs make insultingly low-balled offers. Teams of people on each side crunch analytics data and comparables, then arrive at something pretty close. Any serious offer for Byram (or Miller) from any other team included a 1st or equivalent young player/prospect.

No, I think a first was certainly involved. But it wasn’t the Flames own first, for very obvious reasons.

And, if that’s not what you meant, then you misunderstood the string of discussion leading into your post. As, if it was an offer sheet, it would be the Flames 1st. Not any extra 1sts they acquired. Their own probably Lottery pick.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

So you think when the Sabres said they were open to trading Byram and set out their expectations, Conroy offered a 2nd? I don't think real-world NHL GMs make insultingly low-balled offers. Teams of people on each side crunch analytics data and comparables, then arrive at something pretty close. Any serious offer for Byram (or Miller) from any other team included a 1st or equivalent young player/prospect.

I thought they came on CP and picked one of the many fan proposals to send to the other team.

[Just a guy]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Dude had nothing. He stood there while Tarnasky pulled back, wound up and said "BANG!" before every punch. Chump got posterized.

Golfed with a member of Alberta Springs yesterday and he said this is not the first time Tarnasky has been involved like this on the course. Likely to lose his membership, due to anger issues.

That being said other guy was a total ass and I have no sympathy for his FAFO.

[Yanda]

No interest in Byram, would be really disapointed in management if they go this direction. Especially if they trade next years 1st even if its protected. This better not be a Sutter-esq retool where we start trading our firsts.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Posters who insist the Flames did badly in the Hanifin trade and need to "learn from it" think the pick is too valuble to even listen to offers on lol

Do you have a list of the posters that made both these claims, so that we can keep track?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Do you have a list of the posters that made both these claims, so that we can keep track?

I think we all know who I'm talking about