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Old 01-31-2025, 11:20 PM   #1281
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Farabee has been bad this year, but he's had good seasons in the past and isn't old. Hopefully he can return to that form.
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Old 01-31-2025, 11:20 PM   #1282
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I think taking it all the way back to draft picks originally allocated to the Flames.

Flames Give Up
Senyshyn
JF Karlsson
Lauzon
Ferland
Fox
Pelttier
2nd '25
7th '28

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Lindholm
Hamilton
Hanifin

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Miromanov
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Girdin
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Jurmo
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Old 01-31-2025, 11:32 PM   #1283
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Farabee is a really interesting player too. Looks to have great hand eye and hands in tight while going hard to the net, but also a good shot from distance.


The Coleman comparisons seem spot-on.
He gets open, expects great passes and burys them.

I bet he is going to be an absolute perfect fit playing with Huberdeau
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Old 01-31-2025, 11:35 PM   #1284
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Even if Frost stays at 40-50 points per year, his defensive metrics are so incredible that it's totally fine. I can't believe how good he is defensively. Reminds me of when we got Lindholm.

Briere really got screwed-we got 2 second-liners with upside for pocket lint.
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Briere really got screwed-we got 2 second-liners with upside for pocket lint.
Let's not be too hard on Briere. He made only one inexplicably bad trade this week.
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I'm glad the keepers of our moral code don't jump to conclusions and wait to get all the information before casting judgment and ruling a guy such as Conroy a former good guy.
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Old 01-31-2025, 11:53 PM   #1287
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I am really wondering if Frost and Farabee are the future replacements for Backlund and Coleman.
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Old 02-01-2025, 12:08 AM   #1288
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I'm glad the keepers of the our moral code don't jump to conclusions and wait to get all the information before casting judgment and ruling a guy such as Conroy a former good guy.
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Old 02-01-2025, 12:14 AM   #1289
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So much for blowing it up. Seems like that is put to bed.
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Old 02-01-2025, 03:39 AM   #1290
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Any word if they will play against wings?
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Old 02-01-2025, 03:42 AM   #1291
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Any word if they will play against wings?
Yes, they will be in the lineup
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Frost hit 70 points as a 2nd line C. He has really been underused in Philly by a pretty stubborn coach.
How is his skating?
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Old 02-01-2025, 05:36 AM   #1293
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Off topic but Flames can jump into 3rd spot in division with a win tonight.
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How is his skating?
He's a speedster.
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I feel Frost has every attribute to be a really good #2C. Great hands, great defensive metrics, skating. If the Flames can unlock the offensive potential that he definitely has, this could be an unreal pickup.

Just happy he's finally a Flame. Feels like there's been rumours about him for two years now, kind of felt inevitable. Still feels a bit unreal we picked up two already solid middle sixers in their mid 20s without giving up all that much.
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Old 02-01-2025, 06:15 AM   #1296
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Farabee #86
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Pretty excited about this still. This is the kind of trade you make when you have some excess draft capital to play with and a team in panic mode desperate for a trade. This time, we are the ones that are the beneficiaries.

Excited to see these two play, I hope they remain together and we can find an ideal line mate like Coronato, Zary, or Sharangovich to really spark some good chemistry.
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Old 02-01-2025, 07:53 AM   #1298
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The trade in isolation is fine but I still do worry the Flames are on a path right back to the mushy middle. They still lack high end players. Beyond Wolf and potentially Parekh are there any legit top line or top pairing d-men currently in the system? The prospect base looks quite solid but its one of those situations where you can't count your chickens until they hatch. Anyone who has been a fan of the team for a long time has seen many prospects with a lot of hope and promise that came and went. The Flames are quickly running out of assets to trade as well. If Andersson is signed there isn't much left that will bring back any futures of significance. But I think its still early to say what they truly are. Is this season a one off or will this be the norm moving forward? Next season will likely let us know. But drafting becomes more difficult and takes longer once you're picking outside the top 10. A middle pack team without stars becomes a tougher destination to sell to UFAs and even trade targets with no trades. I think Conroy has done a good job at building depth but finding 2 or 3 legit stars might be a challenge. Maybe he can build a team that has such strong depth it can overcome a lack of stars but even then I think they definitely need a couple forwards and another dman that are above anything currently on the team.
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Old 02-01-2025, 08:10 AM   #1299
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I think taking it all the way back to draft picks originally allocated to the Flames.

Flames Give Up
Senyshyn
JF Karlsson
Lauzon
Ferland
Fox
Pelttier
2nd '25
7th '28

Flames Flip
Lindholm
Hamilton
Hanifin

Flames Get
Farabee
Frost
Miromanov
Brzustewicz
Girdin
First '26
Misa
Jurmo
Jamieson
The trade tree is even crazier if you take it back to the Kessel offersheet
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Old 02-01-2025, 08:10 AM   #1300
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The trade in isolation is fine but I still do worry the Flames are on a path right back to the mushy middle. They still lack high end players. Beyond Wolf and potentially Parekh are there any legit top line or top pairing d-men currently in the system? The prospect base looks quite solid but its one of those situations where you can't count your chickens until they hatch. Anyone who has been a fan of the team for a long time has seen many prospects with a lot of hope and promise that came and went. The Flames are quickly running out of assets to trade as well. If Andersson is signed there isn't much left that will bring back any futures of significance. But I think its still early to say what they truly are. Is this season a one off or will this be the norm moving forward? Next season will likely let us know. But drafting becomes more difficult and takes longer once you're picking outside the top 10. A middle pack team without stars becomes a tougher destination to sell to UFAs and even trade targets with no trades. I think Conroy has done a good job at building depth but finding 2 or 3 legit stars might be a challenge. Maybe he can build a team that has such strong depth it can overcome a lack of stars but even then I think they definitely need a couple forwards and another dman that are above anything currently on the team.
Conroy did say again yesterday the plan hasn't changed. In the end I think the potential of a "bottom out for multiple years" plan is not going to happen, and mostly because it's likely not possible with Wolf in net.

So with that in mind now the plan really comes down to strong asset management and strong drafting.

On the asset management front there isn't much to get mad at so far. They've moved out UFAs (Hanifin, Lindholm) and older players that still had some term (Toffoli, Markstrom), and they've brought in picks and U-25 players.

Drafting so far looks really promising with a good 2023 draft and a potentially franchise changing 2024 draft based on how good those guys look this year.

Really they have some assets left to move in Andersson, Coleman and Kadri over the next two seasons, and still have 2 1sts this year and 2 1sts next year.

They will need to figure out how to get that top center, but otherwise things are in good shape IMO.

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