CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[GGG]

We don't want both to reveal there ability. push one to the brink first then the other. Also make sure any non maz counts include the phantom vote.

I can hammer as well if required.

[GP_Matt]

It looks like I am at 9 votes and close to dying.
Please give me a bit of time as I have to go into a meeting at 3 until about 4. If you are going to lynch me I will post what I know first.

Also, please keep in mind that that twilight land will likely open up afterwards so we want to plan the lynch to coincide when the most townies can be there.

[East Coast Flame]

I have Matt at 8 votes? But yes, we should definitely wait.

[Kjesse]

While we want to get lots of information, keep in mind that when the discussions start to turn to forcing people to reveal their powers, that's what helps the mafia. They will tend to kill those who have the powers they fear the most.

Those who have posted lots have said enough. Lets get comments from the low count people, and then firm up our votes.

[Timbo]

In the last vote count by Mazarin GP_Matt had no penalty vote?

[GP_Matt]

I guess I counted Wood's vote twice. My bad. I think I am only at 8 votes with 7 for Hmmhmmcamo.
If you remove the mystery vote against me that leaves each of us with 7 players at the moment who think we are scum. I have not voted for Hmmhmmcamo at this point as I don't think he is the most likely person to kill today. However, I know that the he is more likely scum than I am as I can know my role 100% so I will switch my vote to him.

[GP_Matt]

Unvote
Vote:Hmmhmmcamo

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

I guess I counted Wood's vote twice. My bad. I think I am only at 8 votes with 7 for Hmmhmmcamo.
If you remove the mystery vote against me that leaves each of us with 7 players at the moment who think we are scum. I have not voted for Hmmhmmcamo at this point as I don't think he is the most likely person to kill today. However, I know that the he is more likely scum than I am as I can know my role 100% so I will switch my vote to him.

So 8-8.

We need Drury and Baxter to vote, ECF is hammer.

Unless GGG is switching as well.

[Drury18]

Wow, I leave to attend to one Centurion emergency...

Originally Posted by Wood

Yes, because flames traded Baerschi

Peach do you want to ever be rescued from that castle?

Seriously though, reading through all the developments this afternoon:

The reason my vote is so late is because I'm struggling between voting for someone whose done nothing I can trust and voting for someone who might give us more answers to this group thing.

GirlySports keeps digging herself deeper in a hole. If she is a townie, I have no faith in her at all and I think she's becoming a liability. Which makes me think even more she's scum because no townie is going to be that big of a liability to the rest of the town. However with only 2 other votes, I feel my vote would be "wasted" as such with her and her flip would only give us limited information.

I could agree with lynching GP_Matt. We need answers about this group thing we can trust and the only way I'm seeing it can be done is lynching one of ECF or GP_Matt. If ECF is lying about the reveal, it should become obvious so he's in a no-win position at this point. Either dead because the mafia is going to kill the doctor or dead because we will find out the lie and lynch him shortly after. The only downside is if ECF is scum, they have a one shot to kill a townie. That's not so great. Matt has a one night power he's not sharing. He keeps asking us to delay him sharing his role, his power, everything. I see some benefit if he was a townie with some good information, but this is twice now he's pulled that card and so I have to wonder if this is a ploy of his. That would be two 11th hour stays. It's also 50/50 whether his power benefits the town or harms the town. If his power is scum aligned, lynching would negate that power correct? He would be dead before night and unable to use it? The other "benefit" (term used loosely) is by lynching GP_Matt and presuming ECF will be nightkilled, we have effectively eliminated the Eternals. If no one else accepts an invite, that group is dead.

Also, as I checked to see posts (as I've been typing for a bit) before hitting send on a vote and accidentally hammering before giving GP_Matt a chance to talk, I see more votes have been made so I'm willing to vote for him, I don't want to hammer early before (okay, if) he talks. If he's short two, I'm willing to put down the 9th on him because I think we will get some closure to this group thing.

[GirlySports]

I have it at 8-7

7 people have voted for GP + the phantom vote = 8
7 people have voted to hmmm
2 people have voted for me

3 people haven't voted... that equals 19 people.

[GGG]

I can move my vote off girly by 6 if someone needs to brake the tie to determine who should reveal first.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I have it at 8-7

7 people have voted for GP + the phantom vote = 8
7 people have voted to hmmm
2 people have voted for me

3 people haven't voted... that equals 19 people.

Matt changed his vote from you to hmmhmmcamo.

[hmmhmmcamo]

Originally Posted by Delgar

While we want to get lots of information, keep in mind that when the discussions start to turn to forcing people to reveal their powers, that's what helps the mafia. They will tend to kill those who have the powers they fear the most.

I think the point of the reveal is more about what you did with your power vs just what the power is. If someone provides that info before getting voted out it makes it easy to verify/trust that information once the card flip happens.

I agree that just revealing your power only helps the Mafia right now because the town has no way to verify if the person revealing is actually town.

[Timbo]

8 to 8 by my count

[GirlySports]

yup 8-8 now. I type just as slow as Bowser.

GP conveniently changes his vote to save himself and make it 8-8.

[Drury18]

Okay, I'm getting 8-8 too:

Hasn’t Voted (3): Drury18, Baxter Renegade, East Coast Flame

Voted:
GP_Matt (8): GirlySports, Oling_Roachinen, squiggs96, dissentowner, hmmhmmcamo, Wood, puxlut, phantom vote

hmmhmmcamo (8): Rathji, starseed, Timbo, Hockeyguy15, mrkajz44, formulate, Delgar, GP_Matt

GirlySports (1): GGG

Puxlut votes GP_Matt
GP_Matt unvotes GirlySports
GP_Matt votes hmmhmmcamo

Then I'll cast mine.

vote: GP_Matt

This is vote #9 on GP_Matt. Next one brings down the hammer. And potentially gives us another chance to talk to the Members of Twilight. Last time we got 15 minutes, so it comes up quick.

[East Coast Flame]

Alright, no more votes for GP until he responds

[Hockeyguy15]

Matt said he is in a metting until 4, and ECF said he would be hammer.

[Oling_Roachinen]

So Baxter gets by without having to actually vote now?

[East Coast Flame]

Where has Baxter been? Only posted twice since the hammer dropped