CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[Rathji]

To clarify, I meant support in a vote

[starseed]

Reading old posts has an entirely different tone when you that several ended up flipping a certain way. Re-reviewing bizaro's posts made it seem that he was just trying to force the hammer rather than steer away from aS and tranny. Tranny is starting to seem like he was genuinely inactive. I think baxter also got a vote, but I think that it was too random to have triggered defensive mode from him.

I am still looking through devo's posts, but he seems like his tell was that he was overeager to display the emotions that townies would be feeling rather than discuss strategy, but I am still going through them.

As for kermit, I have made the mistake of acting on my suspicions of him before, which has led me to be wrong about at least two townies. I think his style is just to act on gut, which could be leading to falsely suspicious posts.

When reading through the old posts, the CC mafia angle is starting to line up a bit... I think I am going to re-read some of his posts.

This game is starting to get really complicated, but I feel like we are starting to get more solid tools to work with.

[Baxter Renegade]

Bizaro posted this about Crazy Bacon Legs:

For sure. I'm not suggesting he's been building a CP persona for years leading up to this. The guy is just hilarious, which is an advantage.

I know I certainly won't vote for him unless I'm pretty sure, since a CBL post is something I look forward to.

Bizaro's affiliation was unknown at this point, and it could be a subtle way of planting thoughts about his mafia buddy?

He also said this:

CAPTAIN CRUNCH: Right now, I'm really looking at Agulati (Slip up) Rathji (history) Transplant (activity), HG (Feels like he was really trying to point 8 million fingers)

BIZARO: I'd be comfortable taking this list, and maybe adding Halifax Drunk to it for the "might have night killed Delgar" factor, and letting ineedanother (the only confirmed townie) pick from it.

It gives us a logical base to go from, and then we know it's not the mafia leading the charge.

If one of his Mafia members was in Captains list, I doubt he says anything about it.

[Crazy Bacon Legs]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Can you do that thing where you post the list of posters and post count for quick reference? Let's see if there's anyone who stands out.

Just go to the off topic section and click on the number of posts in this thread. That will pop up a window with all the posters in the thread and their post count.

[Baxter Renegade]

GGG is sleeping with the fishes... What did he say that incurred the wrath of the Barrow Mafia?

I found a couple things... Could be something, could be nothing. To start, he called out Undercoverbrother for his Townie death reasoning:

UNDERCOVERBROTHER: Much Like Strombad, Lego is pushing for a fella. What sold me on Strombad is his willingness to jump on his sword if he is wrong. Death in this game is not the end. I a townie dies, but the Town wins, then the townies are still victorious

GGG: Is the death pact a good townie strategy? I don't think it is. If you are town you should not knowingly kill town and advocating for your death is trying to kill town. When would a death pact work out in the towns favour? Only when the player is right. But since the player doesn't have 100% certainty instead of offering a death pact they should instead just try to pull people onto their side.

So for me the death pact is anti town and therefore not convincing. Why do you find it a good strategy?

Undercoverbrother got a bit defensive after this call out. GGG then went on to recommend looking at another theory of his:

Day 1 Stombad started on Activestick but you are right he wasn't singularly focused on active from the beginning which means my whole Legoman, Stomach, UCB theory might need revisiting.

Definitely nothing concrete, but hopefully others can build on this potential?

[HalifaxDrunk]

GGG was on the same page as me voting against starseed. GGG ended up dead. I will avenge his death.

I still believe not only is starseed mafia, but specifically Barrow. GGG was a victim of Parker Scum to allow me to continue pressing for starseed. I don't like being played this way but at the end if the day dead mafia is dead mafia. We will get Parker later.

Vote starseed

[Baxter Renegade]

Originally Posted by Baxter Renegade

GGG is sleeping with the fishes... What did he say that incurred the wrath of the Barrow Mafia?

I found a couple things... Could be something, could be nothing. To start, he called out Undercoverbrother for his Townie death reasoning:



Undercoverbrother got a bit defensive after this call out. GGG then went on to recommend looking at another theory of his:



Definitely nothing concrete, but hopefully others can build on this potential?

I should have said PARKER MAFIA relating to GGG's untimely and no doubt gruesome and painful and lengthy death.

[ineedanother]

Originally Posted by GGG

Bizaro was in favour vocally of following Ineedanothers choices as confirmed town.
Bizaro wanted to target someone inactive during the Vig reveal
Starseed was very supportive of following indeed
Starseed was never on my list, CCs list, or Ineeds lists.


Vote: Starseed

This was a good post fm GGG following the card flop of bizaro86, this was his other big post casting suspicion towards someone before he was night killed. I think starseed might be a good choice this time as that was where GGG wanted us to look.

[Baxter Renegade]

Originally Posted by HalifaxDrunk

GGG was on the same page as me voting against starseed. GGG ended up dead. I will avenge his death.

I still believe not only is starseed mafia, but specifically Barrow. GGG was a victim of Parker Scum to allow me to continue pressing for starseed. I don't like being played this way but at the end if the day dead mafia is dead mafia. We will get Parker later.

Vote starseed

Originally Posted by ineedanother

This was a good post fm GGG following the card flop of bizaro86, this was his other big post casting suspicion towards someone before he was night killed. I think starseed might be a good choice this time as that was where GGG wanted us to look.

Agreed for now.

VOTE: STARSEED

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ineedanother

This was a good post fm GGG following the card flop of bizaro86, this was his other big post casting suspicion towards someone before he was night killed. I think starseed might be a good choice this time as that was where GGG wanted us to look.

Yeah, actually starseed looks like a very obvious target for the town considering what's transpired. Plus, if you go over his body of work from the beginning he's aroused suspicion from multiple posters, and posts pretty defensively.

Let's investigate that some more. Also, two key things to look for; Who has stuck up for him in the past, and; Watch for who sticks up for him now.

[jayswin]

I'll jump in on that one for now, at least to put some pressure on him to talk. If I'm part of another town lynching I'll just vote myself out the next day, lol.

Only thing is, I've had my suspicions about HalifaxDrunk from the beginning, but regardless starseed has done enough to warrant this, imo.

But if starseed comes up town, I'd say HalifaxDrunk is another potential target.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Starseed suggests that ineedanother kill someone off his list. Ineedanother's suspects at the time included:
GP_Matt
Rathji
GGG
He would later post his suspicions of:
Timbo
activeStick
hmmhmmcamo

GP_Matt ends up town, GGG ends up town, Timbo ends up town, activeStick ends up town, hmmhmmcamo ends up town, Rathji is the only one on that list that has yet to be revealed.

Those early lists of ineedanother that Starseed was trying to push for us to follow have not been in towns favour at all. Ineedanother is obviously town but now it's making sense why a player like bizaro86 were happy to follow ineedanother based on his early posts. starseed was another person who supported following ineedanother. Maybe bad luck as his reasoning made sense but the fact that ineedanother's list hasn't revealed a mafia and starseed pushed so hard makes it very suspicious.

Vote: starseed

[jayswin]

oops

Vote: starseed

[Street Pharmacist]

I haven't seen any posts from starseed that would lead me to believe that he's a for sure townie, so I could be down with that

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Baxter Renegade

I should have said PARKER MAFIA relating to GGG's untimely and no doubt gruesome and painful and lengthy death.

Might be misreading but GGG was killed by Barrow Mafia, not Parker.

Parker obviously killed devo22.

[Baxter Renegade]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Might be misreading but GGG was killed by Barrow Mafia, not Parker.

Parker obviously killed devo22.

No, I misread at first as well.

[Baxter Renegade]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Might be misreading but GGG was killed by Barrow Mafia, not Parker.

Parker obviously killed devo22.

Yeah, No, yeah... I got it all mixed up.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Obvious and not a much to go on but might make sense to take a look at the Mafia's individuals actions so far instead of just lumping them together. So far we have:

Barrow Mafia kills:
Day 1: Delgar or GP_Matt
Day 2: bizaro86
Day 3: GGG

Parker Mafia kills:
Day 1: Delgar or GP_Matt
Day 2: dsavillian
Day 3: devo22

[Rathji]

I have had some lingering thoughts about starseed during Day 2 and early in Day 3 in conjunction with his seemingly strange behavior encouraging us to blindly vote for ineedanother choices, but something pushed him down my list. I can't remember what it is though.

Going to review those 2 days to see what it was. I am thinking now it might just be the sell job that Strombad did.

[starseed]

Give me a chance to post lists/analysis before hammer. I feel like I have some theories, but I won't have time to post until tomorrow either morning or late afternoon.