Pentagon releases UFO videos

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Nothing concrete here but this is kind of wild.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/u...-michigan.html

"The latest turn in the aerial show taking place in the skies above North America comes after a helter-skelter weekend involving what at times seemed like an invasion of unidentified flying objects."

"The incursions seemed to become so common that Biden administration officials have found themselves issuing private assurances that there is no evidence that they involve extraterrestrial activity. But officials also acknowledge privately that the longer they are unable to provide a public explanation for the provenance of the objects, the more speculation grows."

The balloon was pretty obvious, but the other objects saw both governments pretty tight-lipped over what else was shot down, leading to speculation. The thing that would really help here is some transparency of what is happening, but it's unlikely we'll receive that. The balloon story immediately provides a viable explanation so this is where we start. Will be interesting to watch this all develop over the next few weeks.

Have to say, if these things are extraterrestrial we have nothing to worry about!!

[troutman]

https://play.stitcher.com/episode/211330965

The newest Pentagon report on UAPs – or Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon – reflects long standing public interest about what’s in our skies. Now, NASA is investigating for themselves.

Should we assume that what we can’t identify is alien visitation? In our regular look at critical thinking, we look at the history of UFO sightings, visit Roswell on the 75th anniversary of the crash, and ask how our desire to believe influences our interpretation of evidence.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Have to say, if these things are extraterrestrial we have nothing to worry about!!

Why would we have anything to worry about, regardless of their point of origin?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Why would we have anything to worry about, regardless of their point of origin?

Maybe I watched too many movies on alien invasions, I suppose they could turn out to be like Paul or ET

If these things are alien they're just plain dumb and dumber.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Have to say, if these things are extraterrestrial we have nothing to worry about!!

What actually happens when the American military encounters a UFO:

Spoiler!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Maybe I watched too many movies on alien invasions, I suppose they could turn out to be like Paul or ET

If these things are alien they're just plain dumb and dumber.

If they were alien, I would think they would have at least taken evasive actions.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I never said it was alien. Why does your brain immediately go there?

I always approach these things thinking what is the most likely explanation. Man made military seems like always the most likely outcome so it bears repeating each time there is a new an exciting development.

I’m a fun sponge.

[D as in David]

Yeah now we've made the aliens mad.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Yeah now we've made the aliens mad.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Maybe I watched too many movies on alien invasions, I suppose they could turn out to be like Paul or ET

If these things are alien they're just plain dumb and dumber.

Originally Posted by D as in David

Yeah now we've made the aliens mad.

If they're extraterrestrial, and no one is saying with certainty they are, you're anthropomorphizing everything about this. If it was alien controlled, what was the intent? Would they understand the threat they were facing? Would they get angry or would they even have the capacity for emotion?

If these things are alien Chinese Russian they're just plain dumb and dumber. If this is the advanced technology used by our enemies we have nothing to worry about. Right?

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

If they were alien, I would think they would have at least taken evasive actions.

You would think so, especially with accounts from the past. I'm hopeful the government will show the wreckage of whatever they shot down, but realize that is unlikely to materialize.

Interesting is the fact China has an object they are preparing to take down as well.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-says-...ct-ufo-1780648

This may be nothing more than tit-for-tat as well. The Chinese are claiming the US has been flying high altitude balloons over China since the start of last year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ct/ar-AA17psUi

[Ozy_Flame]

I am into the topic of UAP, but there's little to no chance these are conventional 'alien' craft. We would not be able to shoot down objects that have been recorded at Mach 15 and higher, performing 90 degree turns on a dime, or moving seamlessly between water and air.

If anything, these things are likely stationary surveillance mechanisms. But notice how the language is being carefully constructed not to say what they are, who's they are, or place of origin. It's likely highly sensitive, and probably involves foreign adversaries.

But the NHI hypothesis can't be ruled out either. Yet.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Exactly. Must be open to all possibilities until proven otherwise, but the characteristics point toward something terrestrial. It will be interesting to see who is behind it all. It would be something if it was not China but North Korea using balloons to do intelligence gathering. Would be a major step for them I would think.

[D as in David]

There's actual video out there that shows aliens get very angry if there's no earth-shattering kaboom when the Illudium Q-36 Space Modulator is released.

[Street Pharmacist]

I feel like this sums up my "is it aliens?" take

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by D as in David

There's actual video out there that shows aliens get very angry if there's no earth-shattering kaboom when the Illudium Q-36 Space Modulator is released.

We'll cover all bases for you here.



From an article explaining the increase in the detection of these objects, "Four objects, one Chinese surveillance balloon and three other smaller objects, were shot down in the span of about a week, and the North American military command that's been involved in shooting down these objects flying over the US and Canada revealed in a briefing Sunday that the uptick in discovery and engagement follows a tweak of its radar filters after the Chinese spy balloon drifted across the continental US earlier this month."

Also, "Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder told reporters at a briefing last week that China operates a global network of surveillance balloons that extends across five continents and multiple regions, but it is unclear if the objects that were downed in the wake of the Chinese spy balloon were also of Chinese origin."

[Reggie Dunlop]

If the Flames signed an alien, would it have to go through waivers first?

[Dion]

[Trolleydodger]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

If the Flames signed an alien, would it have to go through waivers first?

Ask Jay Feaster.

[Ozy_Flame]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1630916043031085056

[Ozy_Flame]

Anyone who's curious, there was a public hearing on the topic today.

The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), which was set up last year and is responsible for examinations of unidentified anomalous phenomena across space, air, and maritime domains, had a closed and public hearing today in front of the Senate's Sub committee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities.

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick is Director of AARO and presented and took questions in front of the committee today. For some background, Kirkpatrick, has a Ph.D. in physics and is a longtime intelligence professional, having served at multiple intelligence agencies, including the Defense Intelligence Agency, Central Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, as well as positions at U.S. Strategic Command, US SPACECOM and the National Security Council.

Some of his main points included:

- Congress itself has referred 2 dozen whistleblowers to AARO, and AARO has listened to their testimony
- Sen. Kristen Gillibrand is gearing up to write more legislation to give AARO more resources
- A lot of the sightings are objects that are spherical in nature (see the slide below)
- There are about 300 (of about 600) reports that are unexplained and need more data/analysis to process.
- No credible evidence things are extraterrestrial (thus far), but not ruling anything out
- Anecdotal evidence and witness testimony isn't good enough, need hard evidence to back up claims


Below is one of the more relevant slides he shared in his presentation:




He also presented a video capture of one of the unexplained reports they need more information on (used a Twitter account that capture it from the livestream):

https://twitter.com/user/status/1648713169446088707

No "eureka!" moments, but very good to see the topic is being given oxygen and room for discussion, as well as improving the scientific rigor it deserves.