Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Monahammer]

The chance for Trudeau to exit gracefully was when his marriage was imploding. Now it's too little and far too late. I agree with the chorus as well that no one within the party likely wants to be stuck holding the bill right now. The ship is on fire and a captain will need to sink with it.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by chemgear

####ing wild.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10586427/...suspects-bail/

Nearly half of the 124 people arrested by Ontario’s carjacking task force were out on bail, police say, with many being released again after their latest arrest.

The Provincial Carjacking Joint Task Force, which operated from September 2023 until March, saw 124 arrests made and 749 criminal charges laid, police said.

“The stats are rather staggering,” he said.

“The lack of potential consequences might be a driving factor as well. And frankly our court system, rightly so, gives gives people second chances, and sometimes third and fourth chances. …

“Thankfully in this country, people are given a second chance. But when it’s when it’s multiple times, it is frustrating, for sure.”

Looks like they updated this article to give more numbers about granting bail for these criminals (and granting it again after these arrests).


“However, law enforcement is just one part of the solution. It’s really concerning that 44 per cent of those arrested were out on bail at the time of their arrest, and 61 per cent were subsequently released on bail yet again.”

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Probably a wise move as the current coalition isn’t benefiting the Liberals anymore, and being associated to the Liberals is likely hurting the NDP (outside the die hards who are just happy to have a voice for 16 more months)

We may see Jagmeet pull the plug long before next election as it becomes clear Liberals don’t have upside in the current arrangement. One can hope

Jagmeet is only in it for his golden pension, he cares nothing of Canada or the Liberals. Canada is being held hostage by one man who only wants to collect free tax payer money so he never has to work again.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Car theft is one thing, but then there's murdering a young woman after already stabbing another woman 3 weeks prior, after already on bail for robbery charges.
I'm not even suggesting this is just the current governments fault, but it's absolutely ridiculous and tragic how soft our criminal justice system can be.

While on bail on robbery charges, the 41-year-old is accused of stabbing a woman near a Surrey SkyTrain station three weeks before Dunn’s homicide.

Longo said when police requested her surveillance footage to try and piece together an investigational timeline, they also divulged details on the suspect.

“The fact that this guy was out when he had committed quite a few crimes, it’s just brutal.”

The suspect is scheduled to appear in Surrey provincial court on June 25 on unrelated charges of robbery and aggravated assault.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10582470/...ood-tori-dunn/

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Jagmeet is only in it for his golden pension, he cares nothing of Canada or the Liberals. Canada is being held hostage by one man who only wants to collect free tax payer money so he never has to work again.

Fascinating. Have we tried using a hostage negotiator?

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Jagmeet is only in it for his golden pension, he cares nothing of Canada or the Liberals. Canada is being held hostage by one man who only wants to collect free tax payer money so he never has to work again.

I mean there are probably less stressful and easier ways to be an MP and collect a pension than leading an entire party. Just sayin'

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

I mean there are probably less stressful and easier ways to be an MP and collect a pension than leading an entire party. Just sayin'

You will never rescue the hostages with that strategy.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Jagmeet is only in it for his golden pension, he cares nothing of Canada or the Liberals. Canada is being held hostage by one man who only wants to collect free tax payer money so he never has to work again.

Would it not have been more profitable to have just continued in his pre-politics career as a lawyer?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Jagmeet is only in it for his golden pension, he cares nothing of Canada or the Liberals. Canada is being held hostage by one man who only wants to collect free tax payer money so he never has to work again.

You can really tell the posters on here whose entire mediasphere is The Rebel, Post Millennial, and random right-wing nutjobs on twitter.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Looks like they updated this article to give more numbers about granting bail for these criminals (and granting it again after these arrests).


“However, law enforcement is just one part of the solution. It’s really concerning that 44 per cent of those arrested were out on bail at the time of their arrest, and 61 per cent were subsequently released on bail yet again.”

Actually the concerning thing is the fact the "journalist" didn't give any details other than "bail".

As if you either get 'bail' or you don't with zero distinction to the various types of release.

By bail do they mean Release Order, or any conditions like an Officer in Charge Understaking. Where there surities involved? Where do they fall on the ladder principle? Zero mention of 11(b) of the Charter, or even innocent until proven guilty.

Also no details as to found ins, a distinction to joyriding, or even those accused being indigenous (where cultural view of property and need can be different).

I'm not a bleeding heart here, but that article gives no actual information.

[Looch City]

Wrong thread

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Wrong thread

Did you mean your post or discussions about bail in this thread?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Did you mean your post or discussions about bail in this thread?

My post ranting about cyclists lol

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Looch City

My post ranting about cyclists lol

Ah well I agree. #### 'em!

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Actually the concerning thing is the fact the "journalist" didn't give any details other than "bail".

As if you either get 'bail' or you don't with zero distinction to the various types of release.

By bail do they mean Release Order, or any conditions like an Officer in Charge Understaking. Where there surities involved? Where do they fall on the ladder principle? Zero mention of 11(b) of the Charter, or even innocent until proven guilty.

Also no details as to found ins, a distinction to joyriding, or even those accused being indigenous (where cultural view of property and need can be different).

I'm not a bleeding heart here, but that article gives no actual information.

That was a quote from the deputy chief of police in Toronto, not a statement made by the journalist.

Also, there's no cultural view of property that excuses violent crime.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Actually the concerning thing is the fact the "journalist" didn't give any details other than "bail".

As if you either get 'bail' or you don't with zero distinction to the various types of release.

By bail do they mean Release Order, or any conditions like an Officer in Charge Understaking. Where there surities involved? Where do they fall on the ladder principle? Zero mention of 11(b) of the Charter, or even innocent until proven guilty.

Also no details as to found ins, a distinction to joyriding, or even those accused being indigenous (where cultural view of property and need can be different).


I'm not a bleeding heart here, but that article gives no actual information.

Seriously?
They were awaiting trial for other crimes and found the time to get in a little recreational carjacking.

[Faust]

Mark MacKinnon

Canada’s former defence minister Harjit Sajjan ordered troops to rescue a group of Afghan Sikhs ahead of the 2021
fall of Kabul - a mission that “took resources away from getting Canadian citizens and Afghans linked to Canada on final evacuation flights” theglobeandmail.com/politics/artic…


https://x.com/markmackinnon/status/1...988846819?s=61

[CaptainCrunch]

Basically the interpreters and their families for the most part had to find their own way out, while hiding from the Taliban, and being given very little assistance.



But embassy staff that weren't Canadians were including security personal were told that they were on their own.



Of course the embassy staff were the first ones on the planes leaving a complete mess.



First he stole valour, now this, and this is misappropriation of personal and equipment.



He needs to be sacked.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I’m sure they do realize it. But there’s no easy fixes to the macro-economic issues that have made them so unpopular. Canada’s economic and housing issues were inflamed by decisions made 2–6 years ago that will take years to unwind.

This is nonsense. The housing issues have been decades in the making.

[Harry Lime]

Does the word "exasperated" work for you?