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View Poll Results: Who do you want as the Flames' new coach
Darryl Sutter 232 27.59%
Alain Vigneault 395 46.97%
Barry Trotz 72 8.56%
Bill Peters 31 3.69%
Lindy Ruff 16 1.90%
Dallas Eakins 16 1.90%
Sheldon Keefe 6 0.71%
Dave Tippett 30 3.57%
Someone else... 43 5.11%
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:20 AM   #1241
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Let's take the story about Peters at face value, for argument's sake - I assume the poster knows a family member of his or some such. And let's say we take incogneto's story at face value too (I think he is a credible poster). So.... what happens if Peters opts for Ottawa or decides to stay in Raleigh? Is it "GG will continue to be our coach and we love him!" or do we go with option C and bring Don Hay back?
I can rule out one of those options. Peter's will not be returning to Carolina. The new owner apparently knows absolutely nothing about hockey. The delay is strictly negotiating the settlement on the opt out clause.

To be fair, my source never seems to think Calgary is an option... A few times said it would surprise them. However that being said, some personal information that was shared, I just don't see how Calgary wouldn't be at the top of the list for him if Calgary is indeed offering the job.

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Seems like my intel was a little off on timeline of the coach. Sorry.

I still expect it to happen.

My source also told me (as of April 1st) that he expected Tippett to be the coach next year in Dallas. That also looks very likely.
I see the problem here.
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To be fair, my source never seems to think Calgary is an option... A few times said it would surprise them.
Yesterday you said your source "felt positive" Calgary was one.

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Old 04-17-2018, 10:38 AM   #1244
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Seems like my intel was a little off on timeline of the coach. Sorry.

I still expect it to happen.

My source also told me (as of April 1st) that he expected Tippett to be the coach next year in Dallas. That also looks very likely.
So, AV is in play after all?
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:40 AM   #1245
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Yesterday you said your source "felt positive" Calgary was one.

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I read this as positive the Flames made an offer, unlikely that Peters accepts.
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If a guy from Three Hills with limited NHL success turns down the Flames, that's a bigger issue for me.
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If a guy from Three Hills with limited NHL success turns down the Flames, that's a bigger issue for me.
Especially as his other option is dysfunctional meddling owner in Ottawa or the ****show up north...
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If a guy from Three Hills with limited NHL success turns down the Flames, that's a bigger issue for me.
If all things were equal then sure. If he has a better offer from somewhere else then I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:52 AM   #1249
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If all things were equal then sure. If he has a better offer from somewhere else then I wouldn't worry about it.
I suppose, but then wouldn't we be in negotiation mode, not just "here's an offer" followed by "no thanks"? If we can't outbid Ottawa...
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:01 AM   #1250
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It strikes me that people fighting for their right to call someone a name are reacting more strongly than people who are saying "is that really necessary". The outrage is kind of funny. Especially when no one is actually preventing it, just asking if it's needed.
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Feels like I'm on hockey central with all the sources on here, who knows what is credible and what isn't.

Mods, can you confirm whether a source is reasonable or not, at least? It'll help protect the credible sources and debunk any false rumors.
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I read this as positive the Flames made an offer, unlikely that Peters accepts.
My mistake, thank you. Sorry Fischy13
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Feels like I'm on hockey central with all the sources on here, who knows what is credible and what isn't.

Mods, can you confirm whether a source is reasonable or not, at least? It'll help protect the credible sources and debunk any false rumors.
Easiest is to assume none are credible...
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I suppose, but then wouldn't we be in negotiation mode, not just "here's an offer" followed by "no thanks"? If we can't outbid Ottawa...
Maybe? I have no idea what/where they are in the process. I'm not the one saying they would be worried if we get turned down though.

All we know is an offer has maybe been made, and that he has until Friday to get out of his contract with Carolina. Not time to worry about "what if we get turned down" yet.
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:21 AM   #1255
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My mistake, thank you. Sorry Fischy13
All good. Was just about to reiterate what EldrickOnIce said.

I did have a Mod pm me. If he wants to chime in on the credibility, I have no issues.
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7-10 days, I can live with that. But make it an NHL winning coach or gtfo.
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Easiest is to assume none are credible...
True..

If that's the case though, then you might as well devalue CP completely with all the people throwing around their "sources"

It's like that kid on Twitter during the Jagr signing watch who kept claiming he had sources and named like 20 teams. I'm sure people with credible sources would appreciate that notion.
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:26 AM   #1258
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If a guy from Three Hills with limited NHL success turns down the Flames, that's a bigger issue for me.
Beat me to it
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:31 AM   #1259
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I don’t understand why Gulutzan hasn’t been fired yet. In my mind there’s no scenario where he should be considered coming back, Peters or not. And that goes for the entire coaching staff.
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:34 AM   #1260
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Don't know why on earth there would be a bidding war for a .500 coach, but as long as it keeps him away from the Flames I'm fine with it. No hurt feelings. Maybe he has potential, and that's what GMs are seeing, but given the Flames' situation and the "experiment" they're coming off of, it's not a chance worth taking at this point. This team needs the closest thing they can get to a proven commodity as their next bench hire. That goes for the special teams coaches, too. BT had his opportunity to try to outsmart everyone with an off the board pick and it didn't pan out.

Own it, do those guys a solid and give them time to get another gig lined up so that they know what they're doing next season, and let's go out and pay the necessary price land the big fish to get this young core moving in the right direction so that we can make something of the next few years. Get the city back behind the team with a more enticing product and maybe the tires can start rolling on that next arena, too.

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