Of course the outcome makes a difference. It's a horrible shot both times but its crunch time and he stepped up and made them. The Spurs are much better than the Raptors, but Parker missed the clutch time shots and they're down 3-2 and the Raps are up 3-2. Its the NBA, in clutch time you need guys who can make those kinds of stupid shots because the whistles go away.
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Of course Lowry hits maybe the worst shot he took all night lol. Gotta love basketball.
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Of course the outcome makes a difference. It's a horrible shot both times but its crunch time and he stepped up and made them. The Spurs are much better than the Raptors, but Parker missed the clutch time shots and they're down 3-2 and the Raps are up 3-2. Its the NBA, in clutch time you need guys who can make those kinds of stupid shots because the whistles go away.
The only reason we kept the lead is because the Raptors took the ball out of Lowry's hands for the last 3 minutes and gave it to Joseph to kill some clock and drive the rim. Lowry was 1 stupid shot away from screwing that up. No one in their right mind takes that shot not named Steph Curry.
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Of course the outcome makes a difference. It's a horrible shot both times but its crunch time and he stepped up and made them. The Spurs are much better than the Raptors, but Parker missed the clutch time shots and they're down 3-2 and the Raps are up 3-2. Its the NBA, in clutch time you need guys who can make those kinds of stupid shots because the whistles go away.
I disagree: it's obvious both Lowry and Derozan are tying to raise their free agency money instead of playing as a team. They've played selfish throughout the playoffs.
I disagree: it's obvious both Lowry and Derozan are tying to raise their free agency money instead of playing as a team. They've played selfish throughout the playoffs.
Good on the Raptors for winning the game.
If that's the plan for Derozan, he's failing miserably. He's hurt his value big time. If I'm a West Coast team I wouldn't touch him now.
Of course the outcome makes a difference. It's a horrible shot both times but its crunch time and he stepped up and made them. The Spurs are much better than the Raptors, but Parker missed the clutch time shots and they're down 3-2 and the Raps are up 3-2. Its the NBA, in clutch time you need guys who can make those kinds of stupid shots because the whistles go away.
Exactly. Can't rely on the officials to call the game rightly or fairly and get fouls called (or correct non-calls) when driving to the basket because NBA officiating is very spotty in general at the best of times, nevermind the worst of times.
I'll give him credit. Derozan did his job and scored points this game. Regardless I wouldn't give him the max contract / I wouldn't even consider it for a moment.
The only reason we kept the lead is because the Raptors took the ball out of Lowry's hands for the last 3 minutes and gave it to Joseph to kill some clock and drive the rim. Lowry was 1 stupid shot away from screwing that up. No one in their right mind takes that shot not named Steph Curry.
Look at game 4 when we had Cory taking the shots in the last couple regulation possessions. He's been better than every player except JV and Carroll in the playoffs, but if Lowry doesn't foul out and is taking those shots you think he makes one of the two of them and this series is now over. Some guys have the will to take and make those shots, and Lowry is the top guy for the Raps. Of course you'd prefer great run sets and cuts to produce an open J, but at the end of the day they had their captain clutch come through and that's all that matters.
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There are a few other players that would take the shot Lowry took, see Lillard, Durant, younger Kobe. You definitely need your best players making jumpers at end of game scenarios. Refs refuse to call anything other than the obvious.
Credit to him for having the stones to take that shot.
There are a few other players that would take the shot Lowry took, see Lillard, Durant, younger Kobe. You definitely need your best players making jumpers at end of game scenarios. Refs refuse to call anything other than the obvious.
Credit to him for having the stones to take that shot.
Look at game 4 when we had Cory taking the shots in the last couple regulation possessions. He's been better than every player except JV and Carroll in the playoffs, but if Lowry doesn't foul out and is taking those shots you think he makes one of the two of them and this series is now over. Some guys have the will to take and make those shots, and Lowry is the top guy for the Raps. Of course you'd prefer great run sets and cuts to produce an open J, but at the end of the day they had their captain clutch come through and that's all that matters.
The point is, if he took took better shots he wouldn't have to come through like that. The Raptors almost blew another double digit lead because of ill times threes and ridiculous fade aways a with around 10 seconds left in the shot clock. You give a team like Cleveland a chance to get back into it, they demolish you.
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The point is, if he took took better shots he wouldn't have to come through like that. The Raptors almost blew another double digit lead because of ill times threes and ridiculous far away a with around 10 seconds left in the shot clock. You give a team like Cleveland a chance to get back into it, they demolish you.
Exactly. Only reason it got to that situation was the shots he took before that point. Back to back low percentage threes with one being a fadeaway three with about 6 minutes left.
Game shouldn't have been close if they managed the clock and didn't force those shots.
Look at game 4 when we had Cory taking the shots in the last couple regulation possessions. He's been better than every player except JV and Carroll in the playoffs, but if Lowry doesn't foul out and is taking those shots you think he makes one of the two of them and this series is now over. Some guys have the will to take and make those shots, and Lowry is the top guy for the Raps. Of course you'd prefer great run sets and cuts to produce an open J, but at the end of the day they had their captain clutch come through and that's all that matters.
Its funny though, those of us who have watched the Raptors throughout the season know that they live and die DeRozan and Lowry isolation sets. Then all of a sudden playoff time comes and the isolation sets are the reason why they are chuckers or they're players with low IQ. While, I understand the frustration, since they haven't made their shots, but they were a 56 win team with those two all-stars playing exactly the same way they do now. A 56 win team is not obtainable with extremely low ball IQ players as your top dogs.
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Couldn't find a stream online and they didn't show the game here...who got injured and how serious? Sounds like a lot of guys got hurt tonight.
Demarre Carroll got hurt after he landed on his wrist. Left the game and didn't return. X-rays came back negative but no idea on whether or not he's good to go for next game yet.
Regardless of whether or not it was a bad shot or no, Raptors all season long they've played the exact same way. End of game situations have been the exact same all season long for the Raptors.
Check out Lowry's game winner against Cleveland. Remind anyone of the shot he took today?
Huge win for the Raptors. Derozan played and shooting very well. Lowry missed a lot of shots and I was actually yelling when he took that 3-pointer but it turned out to be a good one. I guess he showed why he is one of the best player for the Raptors at the end. I thought that backup centre Thompson played well during the time Biyombo was in the bench. I hope they close it out next game.
I used to be Dwayne Wade fan but not anymore. This guy is embarrassing with all his embellishment during the game. The problem is that referee Tony Brothers or whatever his name is just giving favoring the guy. Two phantom fouls was called late in the game on his favour. It just make me laugh and got ticked off when it looks like Wade got hit hard in his face. He was holding his eye and looks like he got blinded but on the replay, Joseph just barely touched him. Then another bad phantom call was on Lowry's foul on Wade again. Unless I was watching a bad replay, it doesn't look like Lowry even touched him. Both calls were made by Tony Brothers. Embarrassing!
Raptors lost another player tonight with Carroll going down hurting his left hand. I hope he'll be back next game. Just wondering how come James Johnson hasn't play at all. I thought he's been good and consistent last season. A good defender and can provide some offense as well.
Its funny though, those of us who have watched the Raptors throughout the season know that they live and die DeRozan and Lowry isolation sets. Then all of a sudden playoff time comes and the isolation sets are the reason why they are chuckers or they're players with low IQ. While, I understand the frustration, since they haven't made their shots, but they were a 56 win team with those two all-stars playing exactly the same way they do now. A 56 win team is not obtainable with extremely low ball IQ players as your top dogs.
You also have to remember they don't have JV on the pick and roll, and Lowry and JV is what really opens up their ability to get easier shots in the midrange rather than deep. Biyombo is just a poor offensive player to run it with, and Patterson not a real interior threat, so defenses collapse instead. But Lowry taking late clock fadeaways is just a fact of life with Raps fans, but he's a tough, tough player so he knows how to step it up.
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