The Alison Redford transgressions thread. Update- Redford quits.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Soc...rta#Discipline

The Law Society has supervisory and disciplinary functions over its members. This responsibility includes the task of enforcing the rules of the Law Society, and to discipline offending lawyers. To aid in this task, the Society has passed a Code of Professional Conduct which is in essence a written code of ethics to which all lawyers must abide. The ultimate sanction the Society could impose is disbarment. A lawyer that has been disbarred is no longer legally able to practice law in Alberta.

So stupid question, but when she was premiere and doing this stuff she wasn't executing the duties of a lawyer so would this still count?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I believe they have written guidelines and it's a matter of how much you can sell the "self-entitlement" angle based on interpretation of the rules. It's pretty obvious she knowingly went above and beyond proper spending habits for a public servant. I imagine there's more stuff that hasn't yet been uncovered as there appears to be no end to how much taxpayer money she was willing to use for personal reasons. At the very least there should be a way to strip her of her pension or force her to pay back any money deemed over and above what is deemed acceptable for most of her trips and expenditures.

I think that's still pretty much voluntary, and would probably only apply for someone that's interested in staying in public service thought the next election.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So stupid question, but when she was premiere and doing this stuff she wasn't executing the duties of a lawyer so would this still count?

That is a good question. Criminal conduct would certainly attract scrutiny.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

That is a good question. Criminal conduct would certainly attract scrutiny.

It was interesting, I just looked up disbarred politicians and there aren't a whole lot of them even though history. Could only find 2 that were disbarred due to conduct while in office.

Nixon was disbarred for obstruction of justice.
Spiro Agnew was charged with Fraud and extortion while still in office and he resigned and was disbarred after being convicted.


Most politicians that I saw were disbarred after their time in office, and were only disbarred once criminal conviction were reached.

I would think for Redford to be disbarred there would actually have to be criminal proceedings.

But I'm just guessing.

Interesting topic though.

[1stLand]

Another Redford Travel Scandal:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...says-1.2720906

[darklord700]

If RCMP could charge Mike Duffy, could they not investigate and charge Redford as well?

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by darklord700

If RCMP could charge Mike Duffy, could they not investigate and charge Redford as well?

lol

[automaton 3]

Time to call in the RCMP.

How could she possibly think this was ok? And why the heck didn't someone call her out on this. The PCs appear to be rotten to the core.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by darklord700

If RCMP could charge Mike Duffy, could they not investigate and charge Redford as well?

Well I believe the conditions were quite different. Duffy had shown fraudulent and illegal behaviors. Misrepresenting the location of his residences, etc. I'm not sure anything Redford has done is technically illegal (although we could wait and see at this point).

It's definitely bad. One of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money for personal reasons I can think of, but I'm not sure she broke any rules.

I only have a cursory knowledge of the whole thing though. And as I mentioned, we may find out new information which shows she did act illegally the way it's going.

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Time to call in the RCMP.

How could she possibly think this was ok? And why the heck didn't someone call her out on this. The PCs appear to be rotten to the core.

Time to call the RCMP for sure.
If the RCMP was called on Mike Duffy and Brazeau - This seems worse......

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Time to call in the RCMP.

How could she possibly think this was ok? And why the heck didn't someone call her out on this. The PCs appear to be rotten to the core.

That's basically it.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Ducay]

If there is anything that GMG more than wasteful spending of taxpayers' money, its the Wild Rose supporters' "HOT TAKES" of the situations.

One person's actions =/= an entire party of thousands.

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by Daradon

It's definitely bad. One of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money for personal reasons I can think of, but I'm not sure she broke any rules.

I don't disagree with you. I think PC Alberta should ask her to step down from her MLA post and forfeit her pension.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

Time to call the RCMP for sure.
If the RCMP was called on Mike Duffy and Brazeau - This seems worse......

How is overcharging and bringing her daughter worse than a public official accepting a bribe?

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by darklord700

I don't disagree with you. I think PC Alberta should ask her to step down from her MLA post and forfeit her pension.

Agreed. Though no way the pension gets forfeited. Still, one can dream.

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by Ducay

If there is anything that GMG more than wasteful spending of taxpayers' money, its the Wild Rose supporters' "HOT TAKES" of the situations.

One person's actions =/= an entire party of thousands.

You are right they don't equal the entire part of thousands.

But the party did elect her.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by nik-

How is overcharging and bringing her daughter worse than a public official accepting a bribe?

Exactly. Wild Rose justice at its finest

[OldDutch]

I am just curious how on earth this woman expects to work again in the private sector after all this. Her name, due to her unethical actions which also includes repeated lying, is mud.

Klien enjoyed an advisory role after he left, heck even Stelmach for his unpopularity still keeps busy and hold charity events. What kind of organization would hire this woman in any capacity after this?

I took this course over 15 years ago at Mount Royal, and to this day I remember the one lecture the prof gave (he was an exec in Calgary). He said something to the effect of "never steal from the company, ever. You will all be tempted, but I will tell you this, I have seen may smart people, who make six figures, fall over a few hundred dollars. It's not worth it, ever. Don't charge lunches, trips, even a cup of coffee you are not supposed to. It can and will haunt you forever if you get caught."

Amazing of all the courses I took I vividly remember that talk. Never have forgotten it, just sad that he was right. Such a smart person undone by petty traits of carelessness and greed.

[MarchHare]

I heard about this on CBC radio this morning. Apparently Redford herself is claiming to have been unaware of the practice and that staffers in her office were doing this without her knowledge.

If we give Redford the benefit of the doubt and assume that's true, does that let her off the hook? There's some interesting parallels to the Harper/Wright/Duffy case here (if we also accept Harper's word that he had no knowledge of the bribe offer from his chief of staff).

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

I am just curious how on earth this woman expects to work again in the private sector after all this. Her name, due to her unethical actions which also includes repeated lying, is mud.

Public sector work is out of the question for her. If you look closely, Redford isn't much of a lawyer and hasn't practice any sort of law in close to 2 decades.

She did her articling for a small firm in the early 90s and after passing the bar exam, she started working in Federal PC politics. From then on it's South Africa and then Alberta politics.

It's really flattering to call her a human right lawyer when she probably hasn't seen the court room since mid 90s. I really don't think her legal expertise or lack thereof is sought after in the legal community.

It is obvious to me why she hangs on to her MLA post. She needed the pension money to live on after this.