If asked whether or not I believe in The Board, I'd answer the same as when I'm asked if I believe in God.
"Which one?"
Religious people do not like this answer, and I'd suspect Board people do not like it either.
There are hundreds of different Boards. Just because someone does not follow the one you've chosen to believe as being the correct Board, does not mean they're going "off the board". Maybe it's your Board that is wrong... Or perhaps... there is just no Board, and so arguing about who's is the correct one is just silly.
It's been beaten to death in this thread, but I just want to reiterate what others have said... you cannot judge Jankowski solely on his stats, period. He plays on one of the weaker teams talent-wise in the NCAA and his linemates are far from NCAA stars. If Jankowski had similar talent to play with that Gaudreau did during his NCAA career his stats would be considerably higher. This is especially so because Jankowski demonstrates an impressive playmaking game and while he sets his linemates with golden scoring opportunities, his linemates struggle to capitalize on them. Jankowski makes his linemates better, but there's only so much one player can do. What really sets Jankowski's game apart is his two-way game. Due to his club's lack of high end talent, they are forced to play a defense first game and Jankowski leads the pack in this regard. Jankowski's defensive game might be among the best for forwards in the NCAA. Anyone who thinks this guy is a bust is crazy. That being said, man do I hope he signs with the Flames next summer.
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Jankowski is just like a bonues first rounder we've been keeping in the junk drawer. he could make a huge impact on this team of become a bottom 6er. Either is fine at this point.
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I'm a huge Feaster fan/supporter and I still think this pick was pretty bad.
It happens.
Like I said, who cares where he was drafted at this point? Now, he's just another Flames asset. The question is what will be be able to do going forward?
If it helps, pretend that the Flames drafted Gillies in the first and Jankowski in the third.
The people fixated on the stats need to remember the most important one:
1 NCAA Championship.
He was the go-to, play-in-all-situations forward on the championship team. Arguably the 2nd best player (behind Gillies) for them last year, despite missing the offseason & struggling early on with injury. His coach trusts him & will rely on him heavily this season. It'll be a great opportunity to showcase what he's capable of doing.
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The people fixated on the stats need to remember the most important one:
1 NCAA Championship.
He was the go-to, play-in-all-situations forward on the championship team. Arguably the 2nd best player (behind Gillies) for them last year, despite missing the offseason & struggling early on with injury. His coach trusts him & will rely on him heavily this season. It'll be a great opportunity to showcase what he's capable of doing.
That stuff doesn't matter though, the guys that are obsessed with hating him will continue to do so no matter what.
Look at the game thread for those games, it was nothing but positive and a few of the posters who don't like him (because of how the pick happened) still didn't manage to find anything positive to say. One of his biggest critics posted one thing, not about Jankowski IIRC.
It's one thing to not like how/when he was picked, I actually get that, he might be the worst player out of that group in the 15-21 range from 2012. That doesn't mean however he won't be a good NHL player. That's what I focus on. The draft and the picks are long done with, we can't control that. I'm fully focused on the player and if he can be a pro hockey player. Anyone else still obsessed about the draft honestly just need to get over it, or if you're not over it, say your piece once and move on, not endlessly.
We need to separate the player from the pick.
Also, most people don't realize that he also played at that high level down the stretch drive for Providence as well, wasn't just the Frozen Four. He struggled to start the year, was injured and never really got going. In the 2nd half of the season he was fantastic.
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Jankowski is just like a bonues first rounder we've been keeping in the junk drawer. he could make a huge impact on this team of become a bottom 6er. Either is fine at this point.
That is the way I see it as well. The flames are starting to get their ducks in a row and after the next season You will have Jankowski and the 7 kids from the first 3 rounds this year headed to camp. That potentially is a hell of a shot of youth and skill.
Jankowski is just like a bonues first rounder we've been keeping in the junk drawer. he could make a huge impact on this team of become a bottom 6er. Either is fine at this point.
Definitely.
Especially with Monahan and Bennet in the system now.
I just think it's hard to look at Jankowski without considering the fact that he was a first round pick, and as such a lot more is expected from him. When you're a prospect draft postion matters, just like salary matters at the NHL level, the whipping every year is invariably the player that is getting "overpaid".
What would be MJ's value across the league? I'm guessing not good. Anyways, other people on here who actually watch MJ play seem to think he's doing better so thats good, hopefully he becomes a valuable Flame.
I think the only reason people are still critical of this pick is because Jankowski is a running joke on HFBoards. As it stands, the worst case scenario is that we get a 2nd round pick for him, which if you recall, is the return we got on our 2011 1st round pick.
We have no chance that Sven turns into a regular Flame but a reasonable chance Jankowski does and yet Jankowski is the pick we get #### for.
It will be interesting to see where Jankowski lands on our own prospect ranking this year, with Gaudreau, Bennett, Jooris, Granlund(?) graduating, Baertschi gone, etc. I know he is polarizing, but he must still be up there, with the new #1, Poirier, Klimchuk (not sure where the goalies fit in).
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From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
