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Old 03-01-2023, 01:16 PM   #12481
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I still have this strange feeling we end up with Chycrun...
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:17 PM   #12482
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Which of the big insiders usually gets stuff right about Calgary?
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:18 PM   #12483
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iirc Seravalli has broken some stuff in recent years
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:19 PM   #12484
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Lebrun usually nails it when it comes to the Flames
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Which of the big insiders usually gets stuff right about Calgary?
Eklund heard about Phaneuf being close to being dealt well before anyone else.

I think it was LeBrun who had Treliving working hard on acquiring Hamonic a couple of days before it actually happened?

Other than that, Sec214 of course.

No one else seems to really run anything "early", but rather just right before it actually happens. The one constant is just "Treliving is in on everything".

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Old 03-01-2023, 01:24 PM   #12487
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I think Darryl Sutter is the most misunderstood person in the NHL mostly because of him not respecting stupid media questions. It would be beyond stupid to go forward without him being a part of it assuming he wants to stay.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:30 PM   #12488
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Huberdeau has too long of a track record to say he's not elite. Something is clearly wrong with him this year but he's got the skills to do damage. Everyone thought Jeff Skinner was the worst player in the NHL and now he's having a career best season and will drop 30 goals again.

Huberdeau has at least several 80-90 point seasons still left in him. Just a matter of figuring out how to extract them. I don't think it starts with stapling him to Kadri though.
Skinner looking like garbage is almost completely correlated to when Ralph Krueger was head coach. I think Huberdeau needs the same change to happen.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:32 PM   #12489
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Listening to Frank on Barnburner it sure sounds like the team will be seeing if they can get guys cheap. I come back to Drouin as someone I have mentioned before.

He doesn’t think they will sell
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I can't speak for others but my expectation for Kadri was in that 50-60 point range not the 87 point player he was last year.

Fill that 2C hole allowing Backlund and Lindholm some rest and better matchups.

What I didn't expect was a complete ghost on the ice his points are fine but he was supposed to bring some swagger, grit some hate and be hard to play against by being agitating and play with heart. He did this previously its been missing the entire season.

Maybe I didn't watch close enough but I also did not expect one of the worst puck hogs I have ever seen and someone with the worst vision on the team and utilizing his teammates. Its pretty bad and his play is holding back the 4 other players on the ice.

Have you ever seen a teammate literally steal the puck off the stick of someone winding up and go for a skate like an idiot and turn it over at the blueline?

I always had that swagger or cocky demeanor to him but maybe the cup went to his head and he thinks he is the whole show, but its is hurting the team.
Team worst -11 as well. Tied with, you guessed it, Milan Lucic.

Not a great year from Kadri on the little parts of the game, but hey, he put up some points, so let's forget about all that.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:33 PM   #12491
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Listening to Frank on Barnburner it sure sounds like the team will be seeing if they can get guys cheap. I come back to Drouin as someone I have mentioned before.

He doesn’t think they will sell
unbelievably disappointing but perfectly par for the course with this organization
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Skinner looking like garbage is almost completely correlated to when Ralph Krueger was head coach. I think Huberdeau needs the same change to happen.
He needs a center that attacks the middle of the ice with speed that is currently not available on this roster.

Backlund is the closest option available but he's slotted in a shutdown role.

That center is not Kadri or Lindholm.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:43 PM   #12493
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Yeah it's not a coincidence that Backlund/Huberdeau outscored the opposition 8-2 when they were briefly paired together. It's also shocking that his two most common wingers are stylistically the worst fit for him (Toffoli/Lucic) due to their poor skating. Dube and Mangiapane should have been given extremely long looks next to Jonathan.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:44 PM   #12494
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unbelievably disappointing but perfectly par for the course with this organization
Friedman and others have been hinting at other things so I am not sure Frank is definitely right. Because of the cap crunch it makes a lot of sense to me for the team to shed 1-2 of their guys with a year left
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Skinner looking like garbage is almost completely correlated to when Ralph Krueger was head coach. I think Huberdeau needs the same change to happen.
I think it is more like a Lecavelier Torts situation. Let them butt heads, let them both know that they are both coming out the other end. There is no divorce. Come out the other side a fighter like Vinny.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:47 PM   #12496
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Yeah it's not a coincidence that Backlund/Huberdeau outscored the opposition 8-2 when they were briefly paired together. It's also shocking that his two most common wingers are stylistically the worst fit for him (Toffoli/Lucic) due to their poor skating. Dube and Mangiapane should have been given extremely long looks next to Jonathan.
My lines before the season, at least top 3.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Dube
Mangiapane - Kadri - Toffoli
Coleman - Backlund - ?

If Pelletier was on the team I would have him there. Ruzicka was another option. My top 2 lines have yet to be tried but I would probably tweak it a bit as Mangiapane seems to excel with Backlund and Coleman.

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Dube
Pelletier - Kadri - Toffoli
Coleman - Backlund - Mangipane

Considering that Dube has taken a step forward this year, I think these lines would be the best option. This team has had no chemistry all year, I think these lines are a better mix of speed and skill than what we have seen.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:48 PM   #12497
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Huberdeau also would be better if the d-men were joining the rush literally at all. He's got the vision and the desire to find the trailer wide open in the slot.

Center drives the net and takes a D, Huberdeau sweeps down the wing and spots the d-man in the high slot, and then it's a good chance.

But the d-men for whatever reason are stuck in their own zone every time the Flames go for a rush. Either that or they're going off for a change while still being fresh. The Flames have three really really solid offensive d-men in Hanifin, Andersson, and Weegar, and then also have Kylington if he returns (please come back I miss you so much).

Not to mention the PP#1 gets 40 seconds before they get yanked for the second unit most times. And then the team wastes 30 seconds on the 4th line PP more often than not.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:48 PM   #12498
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Yeah it's not a coincidence that Backlund/Huberdeau outscored the opposition 8-2 when they were briefly paired together. It's also shocking that his two most common wingers are stylistically the worst fit for him (Toffoli/Lucic) due to their poor skating. Dube and Mangiapane should have been given extremely long looks next to Jonathan.
Johnny and Jakob are an incredible fit - not surprising. I think you need to find the center who is capable of pushing back defenders and you will see a huge uptick in production from that group.

Kadri is the most selfish player this team has seen in a very long time.
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I still have this strange feeling we end up with Chycrun...
So he can continue to complain about not playing for a winning franchise?
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Johnny and Jakob are an incredible fit - not surprising. I think you need to find the center who is capable of pushing back defenders and you will see a huge uptick in production from that group.

Kadri is the most selfish player this team has seen in a very long time.
Max Domi is that guy. Don't know what that would cost, but he would fit perfectly.
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