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Old 11-19-2023, 04:21 PM   #12401
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Because it’s going so well with Joe…lol
What exactly is going wrong? Details please.
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What exactly is going wrong? Details please.

Young people are overwhelmingly voting Democrat! That's not supposed to happen! We need to raise the voting age and gerrymander some more districts!
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Yup. But I'm extremely worried about what that means for Canada. Of course the rest of the world will be f***ed as well, but unfortunately we're gonna get the worst of it. MAGA style politics and authoritarianism has already leaked across the border in places like Alberta and Saskatchewan, and that's scary enough. It would only get worse with another Trump presidency.
No need to worry. It will line up with when Pollievre takes over. He'll be just what Canada needs to counter Trumps zany antics. We have nothing to fear.




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Because it’s going so well with Joe…lol
Lol I'm still waiting for the Republicans to govern. All they've done is fight over who is going to be house speaker. The party is so fractured it will be amazing if they get anything done
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What exactly is going wrong? Details please.
The answer they give is prices of everything are high, and there are 2 awful wars going on. None of this happened when Trump was president, so it must be because of Biden. I even read an article about a woman thinking Biden was responsible for abortion bans since he is president while they happened.

People just keep saying Biden is awful, and repeating some combination of above, and people who don't pay a lot of attention just take it all as fact.

Never mind that Biden has handled all those things about as well as he could, and I can't help but think of the disaster it would be if Trump was handling them.
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Never mind the completely dysfunctional #### show displayed by the "adults in the room," the Republican Congress.


I couldn't imagine criticizing Joe while that is going on. But so goes Yoho logic.
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If we could put a voting cap at the average life expectancy +4 years that would be great.

I don't need 80 year olds deciding what path to take on climate change.

This would also solve the problem with the right wing voting block that gets their news from Fox and Facebook.

I'm open to your voting rights being extended if you can pass a basic grade 10 civics test.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:14 AM   #12408
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LOL I wouldn't hold your breath for a response, especially with the AHS wait times
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The fact that the race is even that close is an incredibly sad indictment on the U.S. education system.

I still think Biden probably wins in the end, but holy s***, America. Wake up. You guys are now one election away from losing your country completely. What a mess.
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There's markedly less to whine about so that's an issue for the right.
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Old 11-20-2023, 12:58 PM   #12411
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It's absolutely insane how many Americans don't see the grift with Trump. He's doing everything for his own delusional interests; and he doesn't give a flying #### about his voter base. And sadly, all of his supporters buy it hook, line and sinker like they think they matter.

Trump has no leadership or business skills. This is a dude who found a way to bankrupt a casino. A CASINO. A place where people drop off their money and leave.

The MAGA movement is based on fumes and unicorns, and that country is in real, actual trouble if their bulbous messiah gets in.
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The answer they give is prices of everything are high, and there are 2 awful wars going on. None of this happened when Trump was president, so it must be because of Biden. I even read an article about a woman thinking Biden was responsible for abortion bans since he is president while they happened.
Inflation seriously messes with peoples’ minds and undermines public faith in government and institutions. If we get a raise, we think it’s our own doing. But when prices go up, we look for someone to blame.

And like everything else in U.S. politics, polarization and media bias makes it worse. It’s reached a state where if there’s a Democratic president, Republicans believe the economy is bad, and vice-versa.
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He did say he could murder someone in Time Square and it wouldn’t cost him a vote, or something like that.
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Old 11-20-2023, 02:29 PM   #12414
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Lol I'm still waiting for the Republicans to govern. All they've done is fight over who is going to be house speaker. The party is so fractured it will be amazing if they get anything done
For an idea of what Republican 'governing' could actually look like, here's a sample of some of the most recent laws passed in States where the GOP has a monopoly on power:


Alabama: Mandatory sentencing for Fentanyl, Reduced "good behavior" time for prisoners, Prohibiting panhandling, ban on Trans athletes in high school sports, making dam inspections optional.

Arkansas: Ban critical race theory & teaching of sex-ed before grade 5, ban transgender bathroom use, allow child labour, make it more difficult to get measures on the ballot

Florida: Six-week abortion ban, permitless concealed-carry, no longer need unanimous juries for death penalty, stiffer penalties for fentanyl dealers, expand school voucher programs, tort reform to make it harder to sue insurance companies, make it illegal for State pension funds to invest in "woke" companies.

Georgia: Increase allowed weight of logging trucks, create a commission to discipline & remove district attorneys, ban gender-affirming care for those under 18, increased mandatory sentencing for gang activity, force municipalities to enforce bans on homelessness, $200-$500 tax returns for most Georgians.

Idaho: Increased funding for public schools, cut in property taxes, ban gender-affirming care for those under 18, ban taking a minor out of the State to get an abortion, remove Student ID as an acceptable form of ID for voting, add firing squad as an acceptable method of execution.

Indiana: make k-12 textbooks free to students, increase police pay, increase teacher pay, ban gender-affirming care for those under 18, notify parents of children's pronoun preferences, ban sex-ed younger than grade 4, ban environmental & social governing investment consideration for State pensions, make it easier for parents to challenge library books,

Iowa: Use taxpayer-funded savings accounts to pay for private-school tuition, cut State cabinet from 37 to 16 positions, cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice suits, cut property taxes, ban gender-affirming care on those under 18, require students use school bathrooms associated with sex-at-birth, ban public investment in certain Chinese-owned companies, ban teachers from providing instruction involving "gender identity" or "sexual orientation" to K-6 students, disqualify families from receiving food stamps if they have assets totalling $15,000

Missouri: Expanded Pre-K programs, funding to rebuild I-70, expand post-partum medicaid coverage from 60 days to 1 year, ban celebratory gunfire, scholarships for private schools, allow elective bible classes in public schools

Montana: Largest tax-cut in State history, increased funding for medicare, increased prison beds & infrastructure, increase scrutiny of absentee voters, de-list Grizzly Bears from endangered species list & allow hunting, expand charter schools, limit abortion access,

Nebraska: Banned abortion after 12 weeks, expand charter schools, cut property & business taxes, allow permitless concealed carry, ban gender-affirming care for those under 18, repeal motorcycle helmet law.

New Hampshire: (couldn't find a quick and easy summary)

North Dakota: $500 million in tax cuts, End the State pension plan, expand free school lunch program, complete ban on abortion, make it easier to remove books from libraries, ban trans girls from girls bathrooms in schools, ban gender-affirming care on minors, allow cigar bars,

Oklahoma: Encourage competition over electric-car charging stations, require medicaid and insurance to cover biomarker testing, strengthen prohibition on foreign ownership of medical marijuana businesses, all schools must do a safety & risk assessment, ban gender-affirming care for minors, allow permitless concealed-carry

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: $1.3 billion in incentives to secure electric vehicle production facility, $2500 raise for every State employee, ban on abortions after 6-weeks, ban gender-affirming care for minors, do not allow pension fund to consider company policies on environment or social good when making investments, $6000 school vouchers for private school tuition, increased punishment for fentanyl traffickers, schools must allow students to have and apply sunscreen

South Dakota: $100 million tax cut, money for two new prisons, those convicted of violent crimes must serve 85% of sentence before release, $2 million for youth mental health programs, ban gender-affirming care for minors


Tennessee: Allow students to report teachers who teach 'divisive topics', establish a definition of 'sex' as "immutable biological ... at time of birth" in State code, ban gender-affirming care for minors, require death penalty to be carried out within 30 days of exhaustion of appeals process, protect gun & ammo manufacturers against lawsuits



(I'll come back and finish the rest later, though a pattern is clearly emerging)



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Old 11-20-2023, 02:36 PM   #12416
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I still think Biden probably wins in the end, but holy s***, America. Wake up. You guys are now one election away from losing your country completely. What a mess.
I love that it always come down to this when you lose.
Maybe you’re just not as smart as you think.
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I love that it always come down to this when you lose.
Maybe you’re just not as smart as you think.
Who has lost what at this point? The only team that is losing right now is the GOP. Can't govern and everyone sees it. Can't agree with each other to forward any agenda. Losing elections because of their abhorrent view on abortion. And their guy getting crushed in court with the exception of the case being overseen by the incompetent he appointed. Direwolf may or may not be as smart as they think they are but we certainly know beyond a reasonable doubt that you are not as smart as you think you are. Thank god the adults are back in charge. Amiright?
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This would also solve the problem with the right wing voting block that gets their news from Fox and Facebook.

I'm open to your voting rights being extended if you can pass a basic grade 10 civics test.
I used to think like you. let's make sure voters are informed and give a simple test.

Now 10 years later and talking to people in the qanon, freedom convoy circles and i realize coming up with a test would be impossible.

These folks don't believe that slavery was bad, or the holocaust existed. How can you find agreement on anything that would form the basis of a simple test?
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He did say he could murder someone in Time Square and it wouldn’t cost him a vote, or something like that.
If the person he murdered was Don Jr, he’d get my vote.
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Trump lawyer trips over his own argument as judges appear skeptical of gag order appeal

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At one point another judge pressed attorney Sauer, asking if he were suggesting Donald Trump is above the law. Sauer’s response: “We certainly haven’t argued that.”
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The judge also warned Sauer his suggestion that everything Trump says is political speech may be faulty, that it may not necessarily be political speech. She said what Sauer is calling Trump’s “core political speech” could actually be “political speech aimed at derailing or corrupting the criminal justice process.”
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Later, Judge Garcia said, “We have a past pattern. When the defendant speaks on this subject, threats follow, and now, he’s making similar statements again, we’re months out from the trial. This is predictably going to intensify … Why does the district court have to wait and see, wait for the threats to come?”

At another point, one of the judges told Sauer: “Back in August,” the district court “gave clear warnings to the parties not to make the type of statements that are at issue. That trend continued. And now we have an order that’s targeted at the exact types of statements that have been occurring.”

The judge also reminded Sauer, “A day after he said, ‘if you come after me, I’m coming after you,’ that threat was issued.”

“That evidence is very specific,” the judge pointed out. “As this trial approaches, the atmosphere is going to be increasingly tense. Why does the district court have to wait and see, and wait for the threats to come? Rather than taking a reasonable action in advance?”
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