[GDT] Canada vs USA - Gold Medal Game - Men’s Hockey

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I turned it off. what did he say?

They had Johnny's Jersey hung up in the dressing room for every game. And All the guys there were thinking of him and other good words. He was choked up a bit too.

[dino7c]

Missing Crosby and their 2nd best dman Canada still dominated

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Cooper is not blameless in this loss. The teams plan in 3v3 was mind boggling. Just send guys out and hope for another herculean 1v3 effort.

That is not how 3v3 is win in NHL games, so why the hell would we do it here.

Hockey Canada needs a complete gut from top to bottom to get some fresh ideas into the organization.

That wasn't the coaches. That was 97.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

This is the worst I’ve ever felt after any sporting event ever.

No getting over this for at least another four years either.

I’m going out. Don’t know where, but just can’t sit here any more.

Jays?

[curves2000]

Canadian players in the NHL need to have a legit look in the mirror and ask themselves wtf has happened to their so called great hockey nation. The fact that every single Canadian NHL team has been hot garbage for decades and continues to be so is a massive reflection on how little pride we actually have for winning in this country at our national sport.

Nevermind the BS, nevermind trying to fly under the radar and live the life in locations like Florida and elsewhere. Nevermind all the NHL fans in Canada who decide to cheer for American teams vs their Canadian teams when in the finals thinking that's normal and logical, it's not. Canadian's need to take a page out of the a lot of other countries when it comes to patriotism and making sure we show our pride and ****ing own it. Have the best players come home, play, win and dominate. Players today don't have the same level of commitment to what actually matters when it comes to sacrifice for winning. All about the money, the branding, the lifestyle and things like weather. Get over it and do your fans, your cities and your country proud. Hoping for made up tournaments like 4 Nations and hoping to assemble a super team for the Olympics every so often isn't a patriotic strategy. It's clearly evident we are not the same caliber as we once were, everybody else has caught up and is now surpassing us.

We literally have Canadian's cheering for the games best players to leave our supposed rival teams and go to another country and play. That does not happen in other nations.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Surprised MacKinnon didn't rifle his stuffed animal into the stands

He would have missed?...

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By

Except Canada totally outplayed the states , not sure how you can say the US is a stronger lineup,their goalie saved it from being a blow out.

All of this is true, but on paper, without Crosby and Morrissey, I was also of the view that the US lineup was slightly stronger. Especially with Mackinnon and McDavid on the same line. US lineup down the middle was Matthews, Eichel and Hughes, as opposed to McDavid, Horvat and Suzuki. Canadian defence had Makar / Toews / Theodore, USA has Hughes / Werenski / McAvoy. And obviously as we saw Hellebuyck is better than Binnington in net.

It was honestly pretty surprising that the ice was tilted so heavily in favour of Canada for 60 minutes when you look at the relative strength of the lineup.

[devo22]

I think the coaching (Maurice) and roster (Bedard) complaining makes zero sense. Canada didn't lose the game because of either today.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Can you just shut up with your undying love for the Panthers? they won't even make the playoffs this year.

What does this have to do with the Panthers?

Maurice: 1031 wins including playoffs. 3rd all-time. Cup Finals last three seasons.
Cooper: 697 wins including playoffs. 25th all-time. First round exits last three seasons.

Best on best should also include the coaching staff, no?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Forgot Mathews was even there until they interviewed him

I thought he played a very good all around game. He wasn't as dangerous offensively, but he is a way better all around player than he used to be. He had that one chance he overpassed on though

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Racki

I hate myself for doing this, but I’m doing it anyway.

Connor Bédard does the most important/difficult thing in hockey at a level that very few can do it. He puts the puck into the back of the net. He should have been on this team.

I’ve been complaining about it all olympics. Canada always overthinks the roster. While Im at it, Matthew Schaefer is a top 5 defenseman in the NHL right now.

Enough of the loyal vets like Doughty and Stone.

I thought Marchand was just ####ing terrible.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

So what does the McJesus legacy look like now?

Marcel Dionne.

Although Dionne was likeable.

CORRECTION: Dionne won a Canada Cup

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Jays?

Not even in the same ballpark.

[habernac]

Can’t win on a Flames board where you all hate the guy already. McDavid is hardly the only guy making a mistake on that goal. Most points in the tournament, they don’t get to the gold medal game without him.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Not sure how much you can really coach 3v3 in a short tournament like this. Pretty sure he didn't say "go 1 on 3 whenever possible" nor should he need to say "don't got 1 on 3 whenever possible"

Well he could read the mood on the bench and remind his team they don't need to win it in the first minute. To take time and set up a play.

Jesus, they over passed the puck constantly during the game and then get to OT and all of a sudden it's individual effort time.

McDavid only wants to win if he can be the offensive hero. He sucks and I'm glad we can go back to hating him.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I thought Marchand was just ####ing terrible.

He’s my lowest ranking forward in hindsight. I’d flip him out before anyone else.

[Monahammer]

The biggest difference is the goalie pipeline. USA has 3 goalie options (+ at least wolf) who are all better than any goalie canada can ice. This should be a major prerogative for the whole nation. We need to develop goalies again.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Canadian players in the NHL need to have a legit look in the mirror and ask themselves wtf has happened to their so called great hockey nation. The fact that every single Canadian NHL team has been hot garbage for decades and continues to be so is a massive reflection on how little pride we actually have for winning in this country at our national sport.

Nevermind the BS, nevermind trying to fly under the radar and live the life in locations like Florida and elsewhere. Nevermind all the NHL fans in Canada who decide to cheer for American teams vs their Canadian teams when in the finals thinking that's normal and logical, it's not. Canadian's need to take a page out of the a lot of other countries when it comes to patriotism and making sure we show our pride and ****ing own it. Have the best players come home, play, win and dominate. Players today don't have the same level of commitment to what actually matters when it comes to sacrifice for winning. All about the money, the branding, the lifestyle and things like weather. Get over it and do your fans, your cities and your country proud. Hoping for made up tournaments like 4 Nations and hoping to assemble a super team for the Olympics every so often isn't a patriotic strategy. It's clearly evident we are not the same caliber as we once were, everybody else has caught up and is now surpassing us.

We literally have Canadian's cheering for the games best players to leave our supposed rival teams and go to another country and play. That does not happen in other nations.

As long as we aren't overreacting.

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

This is the worst I’ve ever felt after any sporting event ever.

No getting over this for at least another four years either.

I’m going out. Don’t know where, but just can’t sit here any more.

As a counterpoint, I feel better than I might have expected after the result, mainly because there was a real question of whether the USA was the better team this tournament. They weren't, and it wasn't actually that close - they just got the breaks is all.


This also didn't have the same feel as the 4 Nations game for me. That one had an element of the existential that transcended the sport. A loss there would have been a much bigger deal for me.


But, depending on what time it is where you are and what you did to enjoy the game, I might suggest a run or a long walk. Gives some perspective and works off the bad energy.

[Engine09]

I've never cared much for the Olympics, combine that with my hatred of McDavid and I didn't even watch any games until I turned the TV on for overtime to watch that Edmonton bum lose it for Canada. It's annoying but at least I don't give a #### about olympic medals.