2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[topfiverecords]

Marchand to Florida

[CF84]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Watching all the top teams get even better while we do literally nothing.

This feels just like it used to before there was a cap.

I don't think so. Before the cap was a horrible time for smaller teams. It was as bad as the puck over glass only resulting in a face-off...and if anyone wants to bring that back they've forgotten how truly painful it was to watch.


The crowd sure got lots of souvenirs though haha

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Sure put them in for all I care, I am sure you would agree Paulie that there are many ways to find the stud players and rarely is it just in the top 5 picks.

I have been very consistent in what I have been saying. Keep our picks, not pick deficits at the draft. Don't throw picks at problems right now, this team isn't going to compete for a cup.

Our drafting record shows they can find players, that is the way out of this. Maybe we find out #1C at #17 overall, but if we start trading picks for middling players that chance lessens.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Steinberg says no Flames deals today. Let's see who's right!

He's right, nothing done.
Not worth a 3rd.

[Bingo Jr.]

Originally Posted by Royle9

He's right, nothing done.
Not worth a 3rd.

Who?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I have been very consistent in what I have been saying. Keep our picks, not pick deficits at the draft. Don't throw picks at problems right now, this team isn't going to compete for a cup.

Our drafting record shows they can find players, that is the way out of this. Maybe we find out #1C at #17 overall, but if we start trading picks for middling players that chance lessens.

Well that is (not surprisingly) exactly what Conroy is doing.

[Dion]

Marchand to the Flames for a used hockey bag.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If they want a bump in skill, they could give another look to Kerins.

I find it funny that their offense dried up a bit after sending him down.

Yeah he should be on the team but we have to make sure Kevin Rooney gets minutes for some reason.

Also Pelletier had 11 5v5 points in 24 games which was quite good, and while Frost and Farabee have higher upside the adjustment time for them hurt a bit

[Bleeding Red]

Can you imagine a FLA line of Tkachuck - Bennett - Marchand?


Rumour is Marchand to FLA.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Nice leave out Hedman and Heiskenan and Schiefele.

Fair but if you are going by 3s then you'd put Vasilevsky over Hedman. Heiskenan is being outpointed per game by Harley. On Winnipeg I'm probably going Hellebuyck and Connor as the top two and then it's close between Morrisey (13OA) and Scheifele (7OA).

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

WHo is going for a Cup this year and who are their 3 star players? My list would be

Winnipeg - Connor (17th overall), Morrisey (13th overall) and Hellebuyck (150th overall)

Washington - Ovechkin (1st overall), Strome (4th overall) and Thompson (undrafted)

Dallas (before today) - Robertson (39th overall), Johnston (23rd overall), Hintz maybe (49th overall)

Tampa - Kucherov (58th overall), Hagel (159th overall), Point (79th overall)

Vegas - Stone (178th overall), Eichel (2nd overall), Theodore (26th overall)

Florida - Barkov (3rd overall), Tkachuk (6th overall), Reinhart (2nd overall).

The only team that seems to follow this "you can only get good players at the top of the draft" appears to be Florida.

You ignored the point that non top picks historically take a lot longer to develop. So assume the 4 1sts in the next 2 years turn into 2 core starish players , and assume one of the players in the current pipeline turns out

That’s still 4/5 years from now .

That’s why I have a real problem seeing how this teams wants to get elite . Wait for 5 years “competing” for the 8th spot and hope a late first turns out - when more often then not they don’t .

It’s also convient you left out Colorado , Hedman, Hesiikanen , and edmontons players trying to “prove” your point

No confirmation bias there at all !

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

So short sighted. You can negotiate and take offers without actively shopping guys. Trading guys doesn't mean you're giving up on the season.

Nobody on this team should be untouchable. Nobody on this team should have been unavailable.

Asset management failure.

I agree that I think this was poor asset management today. If the flames win a couple rounds in the playoffs (dare to dream lol) or some vets are traded for big hauls in the summer then today can be overlooked. We didn’t get any better or worse, just another season floating in no man’s land.

[Muta]

I know he's good for our 'playoff push', but if we were getting interest in Hanley, today would have been the right day to move him. He's playing great and his value has never been higher, and would have been savvy asset management to turn a waiver wire pickup into a pick from a desperate GM. Could've recouped an easy pick right there.

[Dion]

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Nice leave out Hedman and Heiskenan and Schiefele.

And Colorado and Edmontons core

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Sure put them in for all I care, I am sure you would agree Paulie that there are many ways to find the stud players and rarely is it just in the top 5 picks.

Sure, if you're a destination that players want to go to, then it's possible to acquire good players outside the draft.

When you're a small market Canadian city with -30 winters, a run down arena and a rep for not wanting to pay your young stars, your only viable option is the draft.

So, since that means we have to build through the draft, I wonder what the numbers are for top-5 picks vs the rest, in terms of frequency of picking a bona fide star player.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah he should be on the team but we have to make sure Kevin Rooney gets minutes for some reason.

Also Pelletier had 11 5v5 points in 24 games which was quite good, and while Frost and Farabee have higher upside the adjustment time for them hurt a bit

Pelletier and Kerins also had something going between them.

But I'm a lot happier with Frost + Farabee.

That was a high end goal from JF yesterday.

Maybe they settle in over the coming weeks.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.

Who?

Depth D-man, rather use our farm than pay for UFA.

[chedder]

Tsn saying Marchand to Florida.

[traptor]

I hope they were atleast listening to offers on the vets.


I'm happy that they didn't make any rental acquisitions. That's a win to me.