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Old 09-22-2016, 08:08 AM   #12261
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I don't have a hard time understanding it. It's pretty simple to understand. I just refuse to accept that it's fine.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...nap-story.html

This basically sums up my feelings form the other day with Warren and Wells Fargo.

It looks great on TV, but ends up doing nothing.
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Hahaha this from the NBC/WSJ poll that came out yesterday. They love us.....they really love us.

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Old 09-22-2016, 09:10 AM   #12265
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The Wells Fargo fraud is spectacularly maddening. What a bunch of crooks.
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He's kinda, sorta suggesting taking away guns from people*. Hillary says this and it'd be an apocalyptic right wing meltdown. Trump says it and we shall see...



*Not white people obviously
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This basically sums up my feelings form the other day with Warren and Wells Fargo.

It looks great on TV, but ends up doing nothing.
I'm unsure what the shaming parade does in this instance as well aside from get people some positive news clips. Shouldn't you be hauling these guys in front of congress and questioning them before their punishment is decided and immunity is given?
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This basically sums up my feelings form the other day with Warren and Wells Fargo.

It looks great on TV, but ends up doing nothing.
While true, I think it's important to note that Warren is clearly not roasting Wells Fargo just for the show. In the end she makes pretty much the point you're making.

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Yeah, I like Warren a lot and totally agree with her. But just watching that smug ####### sit there knowing that nothing is going to happen to him is maddening.

In the meantime, we'll just sit here and wait for the next 2008 and hope it's not as bad this time.
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In 1996, Bob Dole was the republican nominee for president. His wife was the head of the Red Cross. Didn't hear any complaints about her being head of a charity that took international money and might cause influence on her husband. Considering that the Clinton foundation has primarily been an endeavor of Bill and Chelsea, I don't see how this is really any different?

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In 1996, Bob Dole was the republican nominee for president. His wife was the head of the Red Cross. Didn't hear any complaints about her being head of a charity that took international money and might cause influence on her husband. Considering that the Clinton foundation has primarily been an endeavor of Bill and Chelsea, I don't see how this is really any different?

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No, how has it been the same? Good lord.
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I guess I'll have to dig up the thread on that election to see what my complaints were.

I'm honestly just floored that a concern about money influencing policy is so controversial. Not what I expected from CP, truly.
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No, how has it been the same? Good lord.
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I guess I'll have to dig up the thread on that election to see what my complaints were.

I'm honestly just floored that a concern about money influencing policy is so controversial. Not what I expected from CP, truly.
I think the collective response has been that while some initial concern is understandable, there has been absolutely zero reason to think the foundation is causing any out of the ordinary activity to happen. I think the point is that there are myriad other ways that money influences politicians so why focus on this one that is negligible at best.
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Clinton appears on Between Two Ferns with Zack Galifianakis.


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I'm honestly just floored that a concern about money influencing policy is so controversial. Not what I expected from CP, truly.
You will change your mind and pledge your allegiance to Clinton dammit!
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This is absolutely hilarious. Here's the youtube video for everyone

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So I guess the "black outreach" is over since polling shows suburban white woman have come back enough for a close race

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Old 09-22-2016, 02:01 PM   #12279
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The Wells Fargo fraud is spectacularly maddening. What a bunch of crooks.
Agreed.

However, I did buy some Wells Fargo stock yesterday
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Kathy Miller, the chair of Trump's campaign in Mahoning County, Ohio resigned Thursday, according to a statement from the Trump Ohio campaign. The resignation comes after Miller made racially-charged remarks to The Guardian.

On Thursday morning, Miller said that there was "no racism" before Obama. She made the inflammatory comments to The Guardian's Anywhere but Washington series, when she said, "If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault. You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you."

She further charged, “You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”
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