[News] Darryl Sutter out as Head Coach. Maloney presser at 11:30 AM MT

[GullFoss]

So far:

Players with known issues with Sutter:
Huby
Kadri

Players with rumored issues with Sutter:
Lindholm

Players who liked playing for Sutter:
Toffoli
Lewis
Stetcher
Zadorov

This is going to be interesting to track as the offseason progresses because we're going to get comments from more and more players

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

So far:

Players with known issues with Sutter:
Huby
Kadri

Players with rumored issues with Sutter:
Lindholm

Players who liked playing for Sutter:
Toffoli
Lewis
Stetcher
Zadorov

This is going to be interesting to track as the offseason progresses because we're going to get comments from more and more players

Keep making that make believe list so you can sleep well tonight Brent.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

So far:

Players with known issues with Sutter:
Huby
Kadri

Players with rumored issues with Sutter:
Lindholm

Players who liked playing for Sutter:
Toffoli
Lewis
Stetcher
Zadorov

This is going to be interesting to track as the offseason progresses because we're going to get comments from more and more players

Is it going to be interesting? Why?

From what I can tell, Kadri hasn’t had a bad word to say about Sutter but he’s in the confirmed spot, and there are plenty of rumours that Backlund hated Sutter but you haven’t even mentioned him, so I’m not entirely sure you haven’t just started with the conclusion you wanted and plan to finish that way.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Is it going to be interesting? Why?

From what I can tell, Kadri hasn’t had a bad word to say about Sutter but he’s in the confirmed spot, and there are plenty of rumours that Backlund hated Sutter but you haven’t even mentioned him, so I’m not entirely sure you haven’t just started with the conclusion you wanted and plan to finish that way.

I think Kadri had compared Sutter to Bednar in a negative light, saying there was much more collaboration and two way communication between coach and player on his cup winning team. It's a fair comment by Kadri and is enough of a signal to me that he didn't like the coach.

With Backlund, everything links back to his garbage day interview, which seemed up to interpretation. It wasnt definitive that he didn't like the coach, so much as that he needed to see change. And it was vague as to whether he felt the problem was Sutter, other players or both. So until we know more, I'll left him off the list. Maybe he'll end up on the "didn't like the coach" column. Too early to tell

Multiple media personalities have suggested it was many players. Will be interesting to see how many. Early days...lots of players not on the board.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

So far:

Players with known issues with Sutter:
Huby
Kadri

Players with rumored issues with Sutter:
Lindholm

Players who liked playing for Sutter:
Toffoli
Lewis
Stetcher
Zadorov

This is going to be interesting to track as the offseason progresses because we're going to get comments from more and more players

What’s your end game?

So you can prove some people liked him … Enough didn’t.

He’s gone

It’s over

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think Kadri had compared Sutter to Bednar in a negative light, saying there was much more collaboration and two way communication between coach and player on his cup winning team. It's a fair comment by Kadri and is enough of a signal to me that he didn't like the coach.

With Backlund, everything links back to his garbage day interview, which seemed up to interpretation. It wasnt definitive that he didn't like the coach, so much as that he needed to see change. And it was vague as to whether he felt the problem was Sutter, other players or both. So until we know more, I'll left him off the list. Maybe he'll end up on the "didn't like the coach" column. Too early to tell

Multiple media personalities have suggested it was many players. Will be interesting to see how many. Early days...lots of players not on the board.

LOL. So Kadri says there was more collaboration in Colorado, and that constitutes being unhappy with the coach.

Backlund and Lindholm say they won't return if Sutter is the coach, and those don't count.

So this is an exercise to justify and illustrate your pre-determined position. Got it.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Who would you name captain? Hard to imagine whoever it is looks better than Backlund for it.

Weegar for me.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think Kadri had compared Sutter to Bednar in a negative light, saying there was much more collaboration and two way communication between coach and player on his cup winning team. It's a fair comment by Kadri and is enough of a signal to me that he didn't like the coach.

With Backlund, everything links back to his garbage day interview, which seemed up to interpretation. It wasnt definitive that he didn't like the coach, so much as that he needed to see change. And it was vague as to whether he felt the problem was Sutter, other players or both. So until we know more, I'll left him off the list. Maybe he'll end up on the "didn't like the coach" column. Too early to tell

Multiple media personalities have suggested it was many players. Will be interesting to see how many. Early days...lots of players not on the board.

You are simply far, far too biased to be taken seriously on this topic, lol.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think Kadri had compared Sutter to Bednar in a negative light, saying there was much more collaboration and two way communication between coach and player on his cup winning team. It's a fair comment by Kadri and is enough of a signal to me that he didn't like the coach.

With Backlund, everything links back to his garbage day interview, which seemed up to interpretation. It wasnt definitive that he didn't like the coach, so much as that he needed to see change. And it was vague as to whether he felt the problem was Sutter, other players or both. So until we know more, I'll left him off the list. Maybe he'll end up on the "didn't like the coach" column. Too early to tell

Multiple media personalities have suggested it was many players. Will be interesting to see how many. Early days...lots of players not on the board.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Interesting

https://canucksarmy.com/news/troy-st...s-reunion-more

I think if you go back over time and look at the coaches with the most playoff success, you'll find one thing in common: they were all hired because of how much 4th liners and bottom pairs loved them, and how often they made elite offensive talent go somewhere else the first chance they got.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

LOL. So Kadri says there was more collaboration in Colorado, and that constitutes being unhappy with the coach.

Backlund and Lindholm say they won't return if Sutter is the coach, and those don't count.

So this is an exercise to justify and illustrate your pre-determined position. Got it.

When did this happen? Did I miss something?

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

When did this happen? Did I miss something?

It didn’t. Ryan Leslie said that he heard that Backs requested a trade last summer but recanted it. And in his garbage bag day interview Backs said that he loved Calgary but also wanted to win a cup while he still has time and wasn’t fully committed to wanting to sign back. Lindholm was even less committed to signing back than Backs was. All Lindy said was “I have one year and left and that’s all I’m gonna say”. But neither guy has outright said they wanted out because of Sutter. That’s just us speculating

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

When did this happen? Did I miss something?

It reportedly happened during garbage bag day and then subsequent interviews with Maloney during his fact finding mission prior to canning Sutter. This was reported on by Seravalli, Friedman, and McKenzie. A lot of speculation about the exact names, but from the comments on garbage bag day and subsequent news it has started to paint a picture of where those comments were coming from.

[Enoch Root]

and they both rescinded after Sutter was fired

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

and they both rescinded after Sutter was fired

Along with others apparently.

[Flamesfan05]

Huberdeau and Kadri were together the majority of the season.
It’s nice to blame their horrible season on Lucic and Sutter.

What a life

[SportsJunky]

I can see Huberdeau as the captain of this team. He speaks from the heart. Handles the media well. Seems to want to help the younger players in their development. Definitely needs to up his game though.

Backlund would probably be a better choice to wear the C but giving him a contract for more than a couple of years would be folly imo. I'd move him. Tanev and Hanifin are other guys I think could/should be moved.

[Jason14h]

Huberdeau as Captain ? Now I’ve heard everything . But hey , this is the Calgary Flames we’re talking about .

[AustinL_NHL]

All eyes are going to be on Huberdeau next season as it is. By far the most pressure-filled season of his career next year.

Slapping the "C" on his chest after literally the worst point drop off in NHL history sounds like a great idea

[InternationalVillager]

Huberdeau should be captain. largest contract in history. 8 more years. he came from being A in Florida and clearly wanted to lead his own team. He must have played an integral part in the firing of Sutter. He's been very vocal.

If you don't make him captain and declare this team as his, then none of this #### makes any sense.

It's like a few years ago when Flames should have signed Tkachuk to 8 years and promised him the Captaincy after Giordano. You gotta hitch your wagon to someone and atleast have a direction.