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Old 05-21-2018, 02:16 PM   #1201
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Wow, nice predictions.
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Nashville, the best team in the league.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:29 PM   #1202
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Nashville, the best team in the league.
What a tool that guy is.
I think he's a calgarypuck poster.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:34 PM   #1203
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I think he's a calgarypuck poster.
I believe you are thinking of Ryan Pike.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:43 PM   #1204
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EIt turns out no one really knows how to build a good team, or how to win a hockey game or what types of players you should be trying to acquire. There is no explanation for this that actually holds any water. I'm sure teams will try to imitate Vegas next season, especially the teams we think are bad.
I absolutely love this. The ability to predict outcomes for both players and teams is what has made the MLB so boring to follow.

You get your gem players from the bargain bin that turn it around, but other than that the game has become so perfectly predictable right down to at bats that the vast majority of the league's fans go into a season with "Well, I'd love to believe but the stats day we won't make the playoffs and they're mostly right".

Stats are cool, but such a killer in terms of why people became fans of sports in the first place.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:53 PM   #1205
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Randomness isn't much fun either. There has to be something in between.

Between Trump getting elected President and this, the universe is pretty clearly trying to tell us to stop arguing about multiverse theory and just give in already.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:54 PM   #1206
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From a fan's perspective I'm not sure the MLB is entirely like that, although rapidly moving in that direction.

However, as far as the management of players in the MLB is concerned, there is no doubt that statistical analysis has taken precedent over heart and soul when it comes to how players are ranked, and as a result baseball has indeed turned into a boring sport with falling attendance levels. Very rarely do you see a story like this in the MLB.

Then again, that is what makes hockey so great.
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:02 PM   #1207
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Randomness isn't much fun either. There has to be something in between.

Between Trump getting elected President and this, the universe is pretty clearly trying to tell us to stop arguing about multiverse theory and just give in already.
Well I think you went too far the other way in saying the NHL is randomness, the NHL is probably the closest to the in between you seek out of all the professional spots.

It's quite predictable in many ways, like knowing if your team is likely to be contending for a cup, battling for a playoff spot or battling for a high pick, with advanced stats guys chipping away at providing more reliable info with each passing season.

Even just those three categories gives enough solid understanding of what a season may look like, with a decent amount of unknown "randomness" and outliers to make things fun to actually follow and not just understand who will likely win all the time.
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:07 PM   #1208
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Hopefully we will see the Flames adopt the fast, up tempo, quick transition, whatever else you wanna call it, style employed by Vegas. Make it fun to go back to the Dome again. In hindsight under the GG system I should have taken a newspaper to read at Flames games.
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:37 PM   #1209
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Just got back from camping off the grid...nice of the Jets to show up for the series lol

Nice to see their fans knocked down a peg (pun intended) should make my week more tolerable.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:40 AM   #1210
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From a fan's perspective I'm not sure the MLB is entirely like that, although rapidly moving in that direction.

However, as far as the management of players in the MLB is concerned, there is no doubt that statistical analysis has taken precedent over heart and soul when it comes to how players are ranked, and as a result baseball has indeed turned into a boring sport with falling attendance levels. Very rarely do you see a story like this in the MLB.

Then again, that is what makes hockey so great.

Same with the NBA, but that league is driven by singular star players instead of numbers. Pretty boring league to watch when you know who's going to win based strictly on if Lebron James or Stephen Curry is on the team
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Should MAF or Engelland hoist the Cup?



MAF is their MVP, but Engelland is a beauty and it kinda seems like he's the de facto captain.
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Should MAF or Engelland hoist the Cup?



MAF is their MVP, but Engelland is a beauty and it kinda seems like he's the de facto captain.



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Old 05-22-2018, 08:59 AM   #1215
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IMO, at least thus far everything has gone right for VGK, both by design and happenstance. They drafted a bunch of guys who would be considered reclamation projects or disappointing prospects who might still be on the cusp of being good. Lots of teams pick up guys like Karlsson thinking they can turn it around or blossom and it only works out a few times (look at, say Edmonton trading for Strome, or Calgary taking Setoguchi). But for VKG they pretty much all worked out. The shooting happened, to galvanize the team. Gallant became available through a dumb decision- a perfect coach for them. Fleury, who's been a really good goalie, but not elite IMO, had a career season. Any backup goalie can have a stretch of really good games (see Johnson, Chad). And for VKG, each and every one of their several backups did just that. For whatever reason, this team just came together really well.
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Winnipeg lost for the same reasons they'd lost previously to Anaheim, and for the reasons they missed the POs. It just took them longer. They took bad penalties, their goaltending was inferior to the opponent, and their defencemen didn't handle pressure that well.

They can take comfort in the major step they took from previous seasons, and the fact that their core is young aside from Wheeler and Buf. They look OK contract-wise. They have to re-sign RFAs Trouba, Morrisey, Lowry, Morrow, Tanev and Hellebuyck (the latter with Mason still making over $4M). Their only big UFA decision IMO is on Stasny. In doing these moves they have to keep in mind that Wheeler, Laine, Connor and Myers are coming up the next year.
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I'm cheering for the Caps as much as the next CPer. But Vegas looks like a team of destiny.

If it's indeed a Caps-Knights finals though, then I hope the team of destiny is denied like our team of destiny was in 2004. Man it still doesn't sit right with me.
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...They can take comfort in the major step they took from previous seasons, and the fact that their core is young aside from Wheeler and Buf. They look OK contract-wise. They have to re-sign RFAs Trouba, Morrisey, Lowry, Morrow, Tanev and Hellebuyck (the latter with Mason still making over $4M). Their only big UFA decision IMO is on Stasny. In doing these moves they have to keep in mind that Wheeler, Laine, Connor and Myers are coming up the next year.
The Jets will almost certainly become a cap-team entering the 2019–20 season, which will be interesting given the internal budget constraints by which they have operated up to this point.
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Winnipeg lost for the same reasons they'd lost previously to Anaheim, and for the reasons they missed the POs. It just took them longer. They took bad penalties, their goaltending was inferior to the opponent, and their defencemen didn't handle pressure that well.
Looks to me more like their skill players didn't produce offensively. Laine, Connor, Ehlers MIA in the series.
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Looks to me more like their skill players didn't produce offensively. Laine, Connor, Ehlers MIA in the series.
Thats a bit of a double-edged sword though, Vegas forechecks relentlessly which was keeping their top players on their heels.

Its hard to produce offensively when you're being constantly stifled.

The best defence is a good offence and thats what Vegas do, they just come at you in waves.
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