If the centrist mindset of its better to try nothing and succeed in failing than to try for change and fail isn’t the perfect example of why the DNC and party are a tire fire nothing is.
“Oh well we lost. At least we didn’t try to do anything. Alas, mayhaps next time shall be our time.”
The centerist mindset is you cant do crap if you aren't in power and the voters that actually vote are older and conservative
If the centrist mindset of its better to try nothing and succeed in failing than to try for change and fail isn’t the perfect example of why the DNC and party are a tire fire nothing is.
“Oh well we lost. At least we didn’t try to do anything. Alas, mayhaps next time shall be our time.”
"we are somehow unable to field a moderate capable of beating donald freaking trump, one of the most hated public figures in living memory, so we might as well block candidates with real grass roots momentum and implant an old male version of the only person who could have lost to him 4 years ago to the chagrin of anyone who doesnt drink boomer DNC koolaid and blame the loss on racists"
Yeah, it's not that running a moderate candidate isn't a successful strategy in the abstract; it's that the field of moderate candidates is so poor and the DNC establishment is so out of touch that it's not all that likely to succeed. Clinton and her ilk still think they lost the last election because of Russia. When that's the lesson you take from the last election, it's no surprise that a lot of people want change.
The centrist democrat theory is effectively, "look, all we care about is beating Trump. The case we need to win the election is to tell the public at large, 'don't worry, nothing bad will happen to you, everything will continue to go well, we'll just get this crazy person out of the white house and replace him with someone who isn't completely awful'. That radical socialist nominee, in contrast, tells the public at large that we're going to completely rearrange their way of life, because who knows what he'll do if he's elected, and change is very scary to most people, who would really rather not think about politics very much."
The flaw in that thinking is that that's exactly the case those centrist democrats made in 2016, and the other side nominated the "crazy guy who might completely rearrange the country because who knows what he'll do if he's elected." And he won.
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Krystal Ball's take on people playing down Bernie's electability and victories in both Iowa and NH. Especially loved her spot on CNN when they tried to point to Bernie getting less votes in NH this year than 2016 against Hillary.
The centrist democrat theory is effectively, "look, all we care about is beating Trump. The case we need to win the election is to tell the public at large, 'don't worry, nothing bad will happen to you, everything will continue to go well, we'll just get this crazy person out of the white house and replace him with someone who isn't completely awful'. That radical socialist nominee, in contrast, tells the public at large that we're going to completely rearrange their way of life, because who knows what he'll do if he's elected, and change is very scary to most people, who would really rather not think about politics very much."
The flaw in that thinking is that that's exactly the case those centrist democrats made in 2016, and the other side nominated the "crazy guy who might completely rearrange the country because who knows what he'll do if he's elected." And he won.
If the Democrats want to do the "America is already great" Hillary Clinton campaign 2.0 and succeed, they need someone pretty bloody charismatic to pull it off. The problem is there doesn't seem to be anyone among their milquetoast group of candidates that can do that.
The Democrats need to learn from the GOP in 2016. Who cares if you don't like your candidate you still need to get behind them with all your might. Gaining executive power and the benefits like Supreme Court seats to go with it are far more important than your pissing matches over minor differences in policy and personality.
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The Democrats need to learn from the GOP in 2016. Who cares if you don't like your candidate you still need to get behind them with all your might. Gaining executive power and the benefits like Supreme Court seats to go with it are far more important than your pissing matches over minor differences in policy and personality.
Except the 2016 candidate didn't threaten to take your money. DC establishment on both sides have been riding the gravy train for decades.
Supreme Court nominations arent an issue as much the money well drying up.
This is why voters are mad. This is why it is Trump or Bernie for them.
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I saw Warren on CNN today and it is hard to believe but I think she is actually less likeable than Hillary Clinton. Clinton set a pretty high bar and I didn't think anyone could surpass her but Warren is going toe to toe.
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One of the most lefty ideas I have is that access to energy ought to be a basic human right. This is essentially saying something similar, so that’s cool. But it makes no sense to hear this coming from Sanders, who talks about an energy plan that has reliability as an afterthought. I don’t believe him.
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The entire Green New Deal, renewable energy push, and potential fracking ban are poorly thought out and articulated. Definitely one of the weakest parts of his platform.
I saw Warren on CNN today and it is hard to believe but I think she is actually less likeable than Hillary Clinton. Clinton set a pretty high bar and I didn't think anyone could surpass her but Warren is going toe to toe.
Yeah she is brutal. Maybe it is the inherent sexism in my subconcious, but she reminds me of someone who would narc on you in school for having a drink in the library. I can't be the only one.
Anyone over 70 is automatically disqualified for me, guess i'll go with Mayor Pete.
Even though I think UBI is a very bad idea, I appreciated Yang's approach to campaigning. All of the other candidates talk about Republicans and their supporters as if they are nothing but evil racists. Yang was the only one that was open to talking to everyone and didn't villainize anyone. That's the kind of leader the country needs, not someone that will drive further division.
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UBI isn't a terrible idea but the Democrats problem is marketing. There are 3 words that scare conservatives or even right leaning liberals more than anything.
Free
Universal
Everyone
You say one of those three words the discussion is over.
Yang's message is to simply redivide the pot but the word universal is a killer. Why should my husband and I get UBI?I'm in a two income family.
They can redivide money up in different ways. Using Canadian numbers let's be creative. What is EI max now? 2000 per month over 10 months? Why not throw some UBI money in there but shorten the period so people actually look for jobs. Like 4000 over 7 months. You get 8000 more but just gor 7 months.
Or restructure old age. Now you get 800 per month plus 500 supplement if you are poor?
Reverse that. 500 and 800. You would save 300 on the majority of people and put that into EI. You're trying to help specifically the people who are going to lose they job to automation so put the money into EI so they have money to go back to school or put it in a specific educational grant for eliminated job workers.
A person like me should not be getting a cent of UBI.
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Yang's message is to simply redivide the pot but the word universal is a killer. Why should my husband and I get UBI?I'm in a two income family.
Because that's literally the only way you get it passed. If it's "other people are getting something I'm not", then there's a stigma attached to it and it'll get sewered. The reason it's as popular as it is with the Republicans in Alaska (who are fairly libertarian in bent) is that it's effectively a negative income tax. Everyone gets it and there's no government bureaucracy telling you what you can do with it.
If you pitch the thing to Americans as, "hey, we're going to be collecting this new tax that's primarily aimed at large successful tech companies like google and amazon that aren't paying much or any corporate tax right now. Once we've collected that money, would you rather the government keep it and spend it or would you rather we just give it to you", the answer's going to be pretty overwhelmingly the latter, regardless of political affiliation.
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