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Old 11-10-2025, 05:26 PM   #12161
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20-24 seems like an exaggeration. Many teams even in the race don't play that game. Plus you are adding in teams who would be in lottery territory.
Yup. A team that wants Coleman is a contender wanting to shore up their depth. Vegas, Dallas, Colorado, maybe Winnipeg (if they get their act together) out here. More teams out east but that PO picture is to fluid right now to tell.
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Old 11-10-2025, 05:26 PM   #12162
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If Laf goes somewhere and has more success he wouldn’t be the first high pick to have better results on their second stop. He wouldn’t be a pure dump but likely acquired at less than a team would want trading a 23 year old former 1st overall pick.

Zary+flames 2nd or maybe Vegas 1st would be as high as I would be comfortable with.

Left shot winger is one of the last pieces we need especially if we are lucky to get McKenna
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Old 11-10-2025, 05:29 PM   #12163
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If Laf goes somewhere and has more success he wouldn’t be the first high pick to have better results on their second stop. He wouldn’t be a pure dump but likely acquired at less than a team would want trading a 23 year old former 1st overall pick.

Zary+flames 2nd or maybe Vegas 1st would be as high as I would be comfortable with.

Left shot winger is one of the last pieces we need especially if we are lucky to get McKenna
I'm not interested at all. It seems like the Puljujarvi situation where every team thinks "he'll do better here". Maybe a comparison is Drouin.
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Rangers haven't drafted and developed an elite player since Shesterkhin. Some outright busts (Kravtsov, Andersson, Zac Jones), some guys who are NHLers but disappointments (Schneider), some guys who for one reason or another have not hit the levels expected (Othmann), and some guys who have moved on to varying degrees of sucess (Kakko, Chytil). The most successful after Shesterkhin has probably been K'Andre Miller, but ymmv with him.
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Old 11-10-2025, 06:04 PM   #12165
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If Laf goes somewhere and has more success he wouldn’t be the first high pick to have better results on their second stop. He wouldn’t be a pure dump but likely acquired at less than a team would want trading a 23 year old former 1st overall pick.

Zary+flames 2nd or maybe Vegas 1st would be as high as I would be comfortable with.

Left shot winger is one of the last pieces we need especially if we are lucky to get McKenna
Really? He doesn't address a need.

Stick with Zary, the second, add Yegor and maybe I could see it working if for no other reason to ease the winger log jam by turning two of them into one, with a higher pedigree.

But like others have said, LAF is approaching cap dump territory.
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Old 11-10-2025, 06:11 PM   #12166
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I think anything beyond a late 1st or high 2nd for Laf would be a mistake.
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Old 11-10-2025, 06:17 PM   #12167
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I think if the Flames were in the Lafreniere business they'd have also probably closed on at least one of like Cozens/Zegras/Kakko. Similar profiles, young, change of scenery targets. The Frost and Farabee deal fit those bills as well but the cost was still reasonable enough.

The fact that they haven't would make me think that GMCC is letting this thing sink without trying much to mitigate. Those would all be "retool" type moves and it feels like we're beyond that at this point, at least until after the upcoming draft.
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Old 11-10-2025, 06:51 PM   #12168
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I think anything beyond a late 1st or high 2nd for Laf would be a mistake.
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Old 11-10-2025, 09:15 PM   #12169
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Michael DeRosa of nhltraderumors speculates that there is 3 teams to watch in the Rasmus Andersson sweepstakes:

-Detroit: They need an impactful righty who can play on the second-pair, and contribute to special teams. The Red Wings would be one of my first choices for trade partners.

-Carolina: Though we have heard that Carolina might be on his no-trade list, the 'Canes need help on their right side, and have always relied on a deep defense.

-Dallas: They obviously need to upgrade their D, and Andersson would be the ideal target to play on the second-pairing with Thomas Harley.

DeRosa also mentions the Golden Knights as possible suitors for Andersson, while naming the Canucks, Red Wings, and Canadiens as teams kicking tires on Kadri.

Jeremy Tingly says the Devils are going to make a huge splash in the trade market before the deadline, and still have most of their 2026 draft picks (including their first) to dangle. They will also look to trade G Nico Daws, as they have both goalies on the team locked-up long-term, and they would be willing to part with Dawson Mercer for an all-star quality player who is under team control for the next few seasons. He says they have been linked to Kadri, O'Reilly, and Stamkos.

Rob Couch says that Blues trade candidates include C Brayden Schenn, D Justin Faulk, and G Jordan Binnington- who has been struggling this season. Faulk is a righty, and will crowd Andersson's market somewhat.
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Old 11-10-2025, 09:32 PM   #12170
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To be honest our system isn’t exactly conducive for reclamation projects to have any offensive success.

Is there some 3rd line C prospect we can turn into the next Yelle? That’s about all we’re really capable of developing on this roster as constructed and coached.
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One downside in acquiring Laf (ignoring the cost completely) would be adding another LHS LW that isn't fast, and has a long term deal.
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I see this as a somophere slump for Coronato, with the pressure of the new Contract weighting on him, and him trying to do too much. In a more offensively minded system he's going to score 30.

If you could use Coronato in a package for someone like Kyrou then sure, but I don't think it's realistic.
This whole team is bad. Hard for a guy like Coronato to excel in this environment. Farabe and Frost are the only two not on pace for record lows.
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Old 11-11-2025, 12:35 AM   #12173
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I personally don't want Laf for the price it would cost. I don't think he's a bad player, I just don't know if he will ever be anything more than a 2nd liner.
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What are peoples thoughts on a Zary & Sharangovich for Quinn & Samuelsson trade?
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Old 11-11-2025, 12:58 AM   #12175
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We need to keep our guys who are 27 and under, and who are established NHLers. These are our “vets” 2-3 years from now, who will help along our top draft picks.

Andersson, Coleman, Kadri, Backlund - these guys won’t be here in 2-3 years. We need leadership, so best to hang on to guys like Zary, Frost, Sharangovich.
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What are peoples thoughts on a Zary & Sharangovich for Quinn & Samuelsson trade?
I would do it
I think Quinn can breakout somewhere else
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Old 11-11-2025, 09:59 AM   #12177
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This is total pie in the sky but if there was any way to do it, I would move heaven and earth for Adam Fantilli.
I think he's not getting the full opportunity he deserves and should be reaching the same levels Calrsson is this season.

If he ever became available, I would look at all options to get him, including the high 1st this year.

He's a big, skilled, strong skating, mean center that you build your entire team around.

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Old 11-11-2025, 10:03 AM   #12178
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This is total pie in the sky but if there was any way to do it, I would move heaven and earth for Adam Fantilli.
I think he's not getting the full opportunity he deserves and should be reaching the same levels Calrsson is this season.

If he ever became available, I would look at all options to get him, until the high 1st this year.

He's a big, skilled, strong skating, mean center that you build your entire team around.
I posted this somewhere yesterday but this is another reason I'd love to move Kadri, Andersson, and Coleman sooner rather than later.

You already have the Vegas 1st. Move those three and you should come out of it with at least 2 more 1sts, and 2 more 2nds.

Now you have a lot of assets to either use in the draft...or if say a Kent Johnson or Adam Fantilli suddenly becomes available then you can really be aggressive there too.
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Old 11-11-2025, 10:10 AM   #12179
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This is total pie in the sky but if there was any way to do it, I would move heaven and earth for Adam Fantilli.
I think he's not getting the full opportunity he deserves and should be reaching the same levels Calrsson is this season.

If he ever became available, I would look at all options to get him, until the high 1st this year.

He's a big, skilled, strong skating, mean center that you build your entire team around.
Agreed he would be the dream target. Had 30 goals as a sophomore and certainly has franchise center upside. Only way I could see him being available is he becomes disgruntled and asks for a trade.

I would put the 2027 1st on the table as well as the Vegas 1st and Zary. Would entertain more if need be including going unprotected on the pick.
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Old 11-11-2025, 10:40 AM   #12180
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This is total pie in the sky but if there was any way to do it, I would move heaven and earth for Adam Fantilli.
I think he's not getting the full opportunity he deserves and should be reaching the same levels Calrsson is this season.

If he ever became available, I would look at all options to get him, until the high 1st this year.

He's a big, skilled, strong skating, mean center that you build your entire team around.
I already liked the player pre-draft… but his jacket having the name of every person who helped him get to this point really sold me on the person. Would love to have this kid in the organization.

It ain’t happening though, in my opinion.
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