American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Drak]

“Donald Trump had absolutely nothing to do with myself or Jeff Epstein!”

~Jizzlaine Maxwell

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by kermitology

My point is that her death will not make this go away, and it will only serve to further fuel the conspiracy that Trump is directly involved with both of them. It is much more likely that the DOJ acting as the President's personal lawyers will strike some kind of deal with Maxwell that will ensure compliance with her testimony before congress.

It also won't work, but that's how I see that proceeding.

I'm saying none of that matters, because he's a fat fascist king who has seized control of the most powerful parts of the US government, and they have and will repeatedly lie to protect him. At worst it will be wielded against his enemies, targeting specific ones with small releases from files to setup whatever kangaroo court he chooses to go after them with.


Quick question, do you believe the justice department is still functioning in a manner that would prosecute Trump if he shot someone on 5th ave in front of everyone?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

He should do like a Hot Ones type show, except everyone comes and hits the rock with him instead of eating wings. Would be a smash hit.

Progresses gradually from bump to lines to hollywoods, while also gradually going from 70% to 100% purity! I'd watch!

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm saying none of that matters, because he's a fat fascist king who has seized control of the most powerful parts of the US government, and they have and will repeatedly lie to protect him. At worst it will be wielded against his enemies, targeting specific ones with small releases from files to setup whatever kangaroo court he chooses to go after them with.


Quick question, do you believe the justice department is still functioning in a manner that would prosecute Trump if he shot someone on 5th ave in front of everyone?

Neither of these things are what I'm talking about. I'm saying that he's trying to hide this or sweep it away and nothing is going to make it stop at this point and Maxwell's death would only serve to make things worse.

To be clear:

1. The House of Representatives is compromised for sure.
2. The Senate is mostly compromised, but the margin is much smaller with certain senators breaking away from complicity.
3. SCOTUS is compromised and believes in the unitary executive theory.
4. The Republic has fallen and it's just taking time to expose this reality. There is no way to legislate out of this, only violence will change things.

The entire system will not hold him accountable, but the true power is with the people, and this is a nuclear bomb that the people are moving every day closer to detonating.

This WILL end with Stephen Miller and his ilk on the wall. It's just a question of how long it takes.

[Scroopy Noopers]

True power stopped being with the people after the last election.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

True power stopped being with the people after the last election.

Power is always with the people. That's what revolutions are.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Power is always with the people. That's what revolutions are.

Yeah but the opportunity for a bloodless revolution here is gone. It’s going to get really ####ing ugly before this turns around.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Neither of these things are what I'm talking about. I'm saying that he's trying to hide this or sweep it away and nothing is going to make it stop at this point and Maxwell's death would only serve to make things worse.

To be clear:

1. The House of Representatives is compromised for sure.
2. The Senate is mostly compromised, but the margin is much smaller with certain senators breaking away from complicity.
3. SCOTUS is compromised and believes in the unitary executive theory.
4. The Republic has fallen and it's just taking time to expose this reality. There is no way to legislate out of this, only violence will change things.

The entire system will not hold him accountable, but the true power is with the people, and this is a nuclear bomb that the people are moving every day closer to detonating.

This WILL end with Stephen Miller and his ilk on the wall. It's just a question of how long it takes.

I guess that comes down to if you believe people can be relied upon, specifically American People, to do what is necessary. I am not at all convinced they will.


It's a nice vision to imagine Stephen Miller on the wall, but I suspect it's also incredibly unlikely any of these people get any comeuppance at all. I just haven't seen anything in recent memory that would make that a likely outcome.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah but the opportunity for a bloodless revolution here is gone. It’s going to get really ####ing ugly before this turns around.

Yep, violence is the only way out.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Yep, violence is the only way out.

Which bring me back to: it ain’t happening.

But I respect that you’re optimistic about it. Ship has sailed. I wish for nothing more than to be completely wrong here.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Which bring me back to: it ain’t happening.

But I respect that you’re optimistic about it. Ship has sailed. I wish for nothing more than to be completely wrong here.

So you think that the US will forever more be a fiefdom of the King Trump?

Sorry, I don't see it. At some point there will be some kind of state initiated violence and then all hell will break loose. America was founded on the principles of "no kings" and it's just a matter of what line is crossed.

Right now, you have the rabid base that is furious about the Epstein stuff. Everyone is mad at him, he's scrambling to throw whatever he can to distract from this, but the time will come, it's just a matter of when.

[Yamer]

It surprises me a little bit how all these ICE agents went full brownshirt, but then again some of those that work forces...

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by kermitology

So you think that the US will forever more be a fiefdom of the King Trump?

Sorry, I don't see it. At some point there will be some kind of state initiated violence and then all hell will break loose. America was founded on the principles of "no kings" and it's just a matter of what line is crossed.

Right now, you have the rabid base that is furious about the Epstein stuff. Everyone is mad at him, he's scrambling to throw whatever he can to distract from this, but the time will come, it's just a matter of when.

“Sorry I don’t see it” is just willingly ignoring what exactly the ruling Republican Party has been and is doing.

How are they getting out of it? By way of an election? Yeah… about those…. See: Russian election results.

[Drak]

The difference is that Russia has always been historically oppressed. America has enjoyed a long period of democracy and was founded on this concept of freedom and no kings. Even if that’s a bit of a falsehood. Americans have been programmed since the beginning to to rise up. We’ll see.

[Flashpoint]

The power may ultimately lay with “the people”, but doesn’t most polling indicate if the 2024 election where held today, Trump would still win?

The people are morons.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah but the opportunity for a bloodless revolution here is gone. It’s going to get really ####ing ugly before this turns around.

Good, let it get ugly.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Yamer

It surprises me a little bit how all these ICE agents went full brownshirt, but then again some of those that work forces...

Yeah it's pretty scary how many cops/military seemed to just be waiting for the excuse to infringe on everyone's rights.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Coach

Yeah it's pretty scary how many cops/military seemed to just be waiting for the excuse to infringe on everyone's rights.

Wait does that honestly surprise you in any way? Because uhh yeah

[Coach]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Wait does that honestly surprise you in any way? Because uhh yeah

Not surprising, just scary. And sad really.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Coach

Not surprising, just scary. And sad really.

They got all their Paramilitary toys and are just itching for an excuse to use them.