2024 NFL Playoffs Thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

Plug and play who though? This is the fundamental dilemma many teams face. Goff is obviously capped as an elite game manager, but upgrading on him isn't as easy as just grab someone off the street like a RB. They drafted Hooker and maybe he could slide in if they move on from Goff, but Hooker has 0 NFL reps, so it's a big risk. If there's a viable path to a Goff upgrade they should go for it, but I'm not sure there is.

[calumniate]

Man ravens couldn't stop shooting themselves in the butt

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by JBR

Somewhat lost in the argument about the decision to go for it twice on 4th down, potentially taking 6 points off the board.. is the fact that both 4th down play calls were awful. You need to give yourself options if the first read is not there.

First 4th down call was fine, WR dropped it. 2nd one 49ers disguised the zone effectively because Goff thought it was man since a defensive player followed the guy in motion. Just a good defensive scheme on that one.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Plug and play who though? This is the fundamental dilemma many teams face. Goff is obviously capped as an elite game manager, but upgrading on him isn't as easy as just grab someone off the street like a RB. They drafted Hooker and maybe he could slide in if they move on from Goff, but Hooker has 0 NFL reps, so it's a big risk. If there's a viable path to a Goff upgrade they should go for it, but I'm not sure there is.

What about Cousins he is not looking for a long term deal, they can squeeze him in for 2 years while they can pay him, and draft his successor.

Not that simple I know, but if anything its a wash and Cousins is probably a better QB.

[OutOfTheCube]

It makes me feel less bad that we can never beat the Chiefs when (almost) no one else can beat them either. At least we get close?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What about Cousins he is not looking for a long term deal, they can squeeze him in for 2 years while they can pay him, and draft his successor.

Not that simple I know, but if anything its a wash and Cousins is probably a better QB.

Cousins is definitely better, and if they can get him they should try to, but I don't see him as interested in going to Detroit.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Cousins is definitely better, and if they can get him they should try to, but I don't see him as interested in going to Detroit.

I swear in that Netflix series he built a home in Michigan. Might not mean much, but who knows.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Plug and play who though? This is the fundamental dilemma many teams face. Goff is obviously capped as an elite game manager, but upgrading on him isn't as easy as just grab someone off the street like a RB. They drafted Hooker and maybe he could slide in if they move on from Goff, but Hooker has 0 NFL reps, so it's a big risk. If there's a viable path to a Goff upgrade they should go for it, but I'm not sure there is.

That's the big thing...which QBs are clear upgrades on Goff:

Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, Stroud, Burrow for sure.

Herbert, Lawrence, Love, Tua are all younger than him and have more potential but haven't really proven to be better in terms of results.

So if you could get one of those guys you'd do it for sure...but you're not getting one of those 9 guys.

You're probably not looking to replace him with an older vet like a Cousins or Rodgers who are likely better now but might not be with them coming off big injuries late in their career.

Dak is probably better...but honestly maybe not that much better and is going to command a way bigger contract likely.

And I'd take Goff over guys like Carr, Wilson, Geno Smith, Jimmy G, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, etc.

Their best move would probably be to go the Packers route and maybe draft a guy that can spend a couple years behind Goff and you hope he can eventually take over but not throw him to the fire right away. (Maybe they do think Hooker is that guy but I think it's unlikley) Could they potentially take a guy like Bo Nix or Michael Penix this year if they fall to their 1st ...wouldn't shock me. Maybe even JJ McCarthy...let him continue to be a Michigan football star.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Cousins is definitely better, and if they can get him they should try to, but I don't see him as interested in going to Detroit.

I'm a big Kirk Cousins fan and think he's a bit under appreciated.

But he's also 36 years old and coming off a major Achilles injury. Banking that he's a big upgrade on Goff for next season would be a huge risk IMO.

[Erick Estrada]

Mobility has never been part of Cousins game but if he wants a two year guaranteed contract at his age a team would have to be very confident that they have a Super Bowl window. I think Goff will be back with the Lions as it just seems to be a good fit for both parties.

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's also worth noting that it's not like Goff was bad or meaningfully responsible for the loss yesterday. If Reynolds catches that first fourth down they are probably at worst up 17 with at least two more minutes off the clock, so something like 27-10 with 20 minutes left, they would have been in tremendous shape with that catch. And even after that conversion fail the Niners still needed a miracle TD and a running back fumble to facilitate the comeback. I would only for sure move on from him if he wants top of the market money, or if a clear upgrade is available. SuperMatt is also spot on that Cousins carries a lot of risk coming back from the injury he had, plus the learning curve of a new offense. What the Lions really need more than anything is secondary help, you can't be as bad against the pass as they are and hope to contend for very long.

[Erick Estrada]

Reynolds had several key drops of balls that were right in his hands. There was also that deep ball which was a perfect throw that went through the hands of Williams in the end zone. If his receivers have a better day I think we are talking about a Lions vs Chiefs Super Bowl today.

[SuperMatt18]

49ers were really fortunate against the Packers and Lions...probably should have lost both of those games TBH.

Feels like it could be their year though, teams who have the talent and also seem to be getting all the breaks tend to be the teams that win.

And 49ers are getting all the breaks right now.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The Lions are well run at this point, losing Johnson is gonna hurt but they will likely slide in another offensive assistant who is well versed in their existing scheme so it won't be a huge drop off.

The Eagles thought the same thing by promoting Brian Johnson. Didn't work out for them. Promoting internally is usually as much as crapshoot as hiring externally because the internal promote usually lacks playcalling experience.

[Mathgod]

I think the Chiefs win the SB, and by multiple scores.

Mahomes vs Purdy? lol. Reid vs Shanahan? lol

Only chance the 9ers have is if McCaffrey takes over the game. But I think the Chiefs have the linebacking talent to keep him somewhat in check.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

I think the Chiefs win the SB, and by multiple scores.

Mahomes vs Purdy? lol. Reid vs Shanahan? lol

Only chance the 9ers have is if McCaffrey takes over the game. But I think the Chiefs have the linebacking talent to keep him somewhat in check.

So this tells me to put a large wager on the Niners to win it all.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

I think the Chiefs win the SB, and by multiple scores.

Mahomes vs Purdy? lol. Reid vs Shanahan? lol

Only chance the 9ers have is if McCaffrey takes over the game. But I think the Chiefs have the linebacking talent to keep him somewhat in check.

Chiefs are pretty banged up on defense right now and that Niners offensive line should be able to open some holes.

Not sure who wins, but tough to see it being more than a one-score game either way.

[Manhattanboy]

Was just thinking about this, the trophy presentations (including the Super Bowl) in the NFL are so terrible. Raised stages for the NFC and AFC trophies with the owners and their families (who are as white as you can get) and cringy guys like Strahan. Bradshaw was the worst last year.

NHL is still the best for handing out the hardware including minor ceremonies for the conference championships.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Chiefs are pretty banged up on defense right now and that Niners offensive line should be able to open some holes.

Not sure who wins, but tough to see it being more than a one-score game either way.

Yeah Omenihu is out with an ACL. Nandi has not played in the playoffs and Gay missed last game, and Edward's who is already a backup playing a lot of snaps is less than 100%. Add in Thuney most likely being out and playing two pretty tough physical games to get here plus another one in really cold conditions vd. Miami. I do think health and rest is in favor of San Francisco.

Shanahan might get too conservative if he gets the lead, but he won't try 16 runs in the game and resort to Yolo balls in the third quarter. I think it will be a one score game into the 4th quarter. Some defensive TD's late might push it past one score but I don't think it's going to be a 3 score game half way through the 4th.

[carmenshoes]

At what time is the Super Bowl in mountain time?