Barn Burner: The Boys are Back!! (Boomer, Pinder & Warrener)

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

The whole concept of cheering for a team because they’re Canadian is purely a media fabrication. Every serious hockey fan I know that cheers for a Canadian team hates the other 6 Canadian teams.

Frank has no idea what he’s talking about and sounds like an idiot when he pushes this false narrative.

It's a false narrative coming right out of Edmonton. If I showed you my Linkedin right now you'd vomit. There are Dozens of rich idiots / "business leaders" pumping out this exact malarky right now.

They shut up pretty quick when I ask them how they felt cheering for Vancouver to win the cup in 2011

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

The whole concept of cheering for a team because they’re Canadian is purely a media fabrication. Every serious hockey fan I know that cheers for a Canadian team hates the other 6 Canadian teams.

Frank has no idea what he’s talking about and sounds like an idiot when he pushes this false narrative.

Yeah media, bars / restaurants that just want business / casual to non-fans that pull that stuff. Whenever I hear someone say they're pulling for Canadian teams, especially other western Canadian teams, I just assume they're casuals.

[dammage79]

I'd cheer for literally any other Canadian team if they made the finals. Except for Edmonton. And the Sedin era Canucks.

But at all times, I'll never cheer for Edmonton to win a cup. "Canada's team" is A.B.E

[EVERLAST]

When I look back at playoff performers that played for thr Flames Joe Neiwendyk and Gary Roberts were absolute killers wherever they played you wanted them on the ice....they wanted the puck on thier stick and wanted to be that guy.

Bennett....you can't play playoff hockey in the regular season. Do too much and thr refs penalize you , other teams play you differently it's just different

Bennett has a playoff gear. Not all players have it to give every nite. Maybe not on the scoresheet, maybe it's not being noticed at all snd that's the secret until it matters.

Martin Gelinas is the perfect example of a guy ....THAT guy!!! Thank GOD someone knew he ought be out there when he was otherwise 04 wouldn't have happened.

Not just that but thr quiet leadership . Busting his ass every shift, in position when the opposition needed to be shut down ....there he was.

Backlund has done that too. Just hasn't gotten to do it enough in my mind .

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The Panthers have

13 Canadian born players
6 US born players (7 including the third string goalie)
6 Swedes
4 Finns

Hard to say their roster is very representative of the US.

Maurice is also a Canadian guy through and through

Oilers have a high ratio of Canadians but also a high ratio of trash.

[saillias]

Does any fan of an NHL team actually pick who to root for by crunching the numbers of nationality?

like Pinder mentions we're not in the Olympics this is a club league.

I can't tell if Seravalli moping on Barn Burner about how they don't want to root for Edmonton is a bit or he's genuinely confused. It's like he thinks "you're canadian. that's a canadian team. therefore, you must have nationalism and want this team to win."

[Yamer]

I've come around to understanding Frank's personality is a bit. I'm not personally entertained by it, and generally a lot of what he is saying or doing to get attention is asinine, but as the President of PWHA I guess his approach should be more bold than the average Joe writing about hockey.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

The whole concept of cheering for a team because they’re Canadian is purely a media fabrication. Every serious hockey fan I know that cheers for a Canadian team hates the other 6 Canadian teams.

Frank has no idea what he’s talking about and sounds like an idiot when he pushes this false narrative.

Yeah because as well know, Philly fans like Frank start cheering for Pittsburgh teams the minute they're eliminated, and vice versa.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I've come around to understanding Frank's personality is a bit. I'm not personally entertained by it, and generally a lot of what he is saying to doing to get attention is asinine, but as the President of PWHA I guess his approach should be more bold than the average Joe writing about hockey.

He has always been a clown.

When covid started and they changed the interview set up by doing distanced podium interviews, he wrote a letter demanding access to locker rooms.

What a hack.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by saillias

Does any fan of an NHL team actually pick who to root for by crunching the numbers of nationality?

like Pinder mentions we're not in the Olympics this is a club league.

I can't tell if Seravalli moping on Barn Burner about how they don't want to root for Edmonton is a bit or he's genuinely confused. It's like he thinks "you're canadian. that's a canadian team. therefore, you must have nationalism and want this team to win."

Oh its absolutely a club league, but I thought I would play the nationality game just for #####.

I'm basing who I'm cheering for on none of those things, but primarily on morality and the quality of people each side brings. Florida runs away with that head to every day of the week, even with their rats.

No one can out-do Edmonton's ick factor. It pretty much renders the canadian part irrelevant. Or at least it should. But apparently people like Frank and Ron can look at guys like Kane and not see anything wrong.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Oh its absolutely a club league, but I thought I would play the nationality game just for #####.

I'm basing who I'm cheering for on none of those things, but primarily on morality and the quality of people each side brings. Florida runs away with that head to every day of the week, even with their rats.

No one can out-do Edmonton's ick factor. It pretty much renders the canadian part irrelevant. Or at least it should. But apparently people like Frank and Ron can look at guys like Kane and not see anything wrong.

TBH pure coincidence my post came after yours, i was just coming in here to rant after hearing Seravalli pout on Barn burner for the second time this playoffs that Calgarians won't cheer for Edmonton

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by stang

Pretty sure he owns the BB podcast, its part of the Nation network and under Daily faceoff? I could be wrong on that though.

Edit: Maybe he doesn't own it, but he runs it?

You're wrong on that.

[Sainters7]

Finally heard the interview. If anything I thought it was Frank being grumpy and pretty unprofessional. He was openly taunting them at points and directly called them pricks, I thought it was a little bizarre to be honest. Safe to say he's a full-on Grease fan now, he sure talks like one.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

Finally heard the interview. If anything I thought it was Frank being grumpy and pretty unprofessional. He was openly taunting them at points and directly called them pricks, I thought it was a little bizarre to be honest. Safe to say he's a full-on Grease fan now, he sure talks like one.

Their push back and refusal to play along with his ridiculous suggestions was handled flawlessly.

That's pretty much how I imagine an honest discussion would go with any delusional media member on BB.

Defensiveness, resorting to calling them pricks or bitter etc for bringing up good arguments, rather than considering or debating the points brought up with thoughtful counter-points.

That was textbook by the three.

Oiler Kool-Aid drinkers really are adverse to brutal honesty that isn't flattering to whatever self-felating narratives they're regurgitating.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Seravalli's push to get Flames fans to cheer for the Oilers is so weird. Pinder asked him today if Flyers fans would cheer for the Penguins (of course not) and he seemed to hand wave it away because of some subjective valuation that the Flames-Oilers rivalry is not at that level. It's almost like he thinks Flames fans shouldn't be taken seriously. It's so weird and honestly awkward to listen to.

I used to enjoy Frank but man I'd be okay with almost anybody else on BB/Flames Talk going forward.

Seravalli doesn't like the Flames. He was too giddy during the whole Gaudreau/Tkachuk thing, Treliving walking away, and Sutter getting dismissed. He was loving every second of it. At one point, I think it was Boomer who told him to cool a bit as nicely as he could on the air.

I really wish they would find a different person to give his time too. There are probably better insiders that wouldn't mind getting more air time. I would even take more of Dreger. He is at least respectful to the Flames fanbase.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

The whole concept of cheering for a team because they’re Canadian is purely a media fabrication. Every serious hockey fan I know that cheers for a Canadian team hates the other 6 Canadian teams.

Frank has no idea what he’s talking about and sounds like an idiot when he pushes this false narrative.

Sure but Frank’s just stirring the pot. It was a good and entertaining hit on BB. Frank knows what he’s doing, he’s not dumb.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Sure but Frank’s just stirring the pot. It was a good and entertaining hit on BB. Frank knows what he’s doing, he’s not dumb.

Eh, he deff was last week, and knowing his personality combined with reading about today's hit with him on here earlier, I assumed the same. But after finally listening to it, he sounds genuinely mad / exasperated and basically seems like he doesn't want to be there. It was weird...he's drinking the blue Kool-Aid hard.

[curves2000]

I think Seravalli's stance in this is just a little odd to a lot of American's as their level of patriotisms is different down there. You really can't explain a scenario where a lot of American hockey fan's would be covered in Edmonton/Calgary/Canada's team colours/colors cheering against a US based team.

A lot of hockey fans in Canada cheer against teams in Canada naturally but then they also complain Bettman hates Canada, he will never allow the cup to come to Canada etc. Basically complaining about the lack of cup wins in 30+ years but then voting for the status quo.

Other sportscasters on US based sports stations from even other sports find it somewhat confusing.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Patriotism should have nothing to do with it.

It's two cities facing off trying to win the prize for itself, its organization and its fans. Trying to make it into something else or bigger is forced and falls on deaf ears year after year for good reason. Unless you're in the city that wins it, you don't get to partake in any of the celebrations for that win and no one is shouting you out for jumping on the bandwagon.

It's a national thing when the flag is on the jersey. This isn't that.

[Goriders]

I hate Edmonton. Mainly because of their fans.

I’m not cheering for something I hate.