But I do have a question for people in general, why does there seam to be more outrage towards this campaign than to other FaceBook campaigns? (This is just based on the 5 people on my own personal wall who have slammed the concept openly) I'm just curious, because I'm sure most people remember the "Bra Colour" campaign earlier this year, but yet nobody was willing to openly slam that concept.
Why is it that one campaign is okay and fun, while another seemingly similar campaign is offensive. I'm just curious.
There was a lengthy thread right here on CP blasting the bra colour campaign for the same reason.
Just curious does everyone who thinks this is stupid also think movember was useless? Tons of people just grew staches and didn't raise any $ or get checked. Just another way to fit in by saying they're participating and pat themselves on the back w/o actually doing anything.
Just curious does everyone who thinks this is stupid also think movember was useless? Tons of people just grew staches and didn't raise any $ or get checked. Just another way to fit in by saying they're participating and pat themselves on the back w/o actually doing anything.
I don't. Two my friends (also on this board) almost raised $1000 between the two of them for prostate cancer research. This Facebook could have legs, but right now I am sure more people are changing their picture because it's cool more so than any other reason. I bet most of the people growing mustaches were seeking donations.
I don't. Two my friends (also on this board) almost raised $1000 between the two of them for prostate cancer research. This Facebook could have legs, but right now I am sure more people are changing their picture because it's cool more so than any other reason. I bet most of the people growing mustaches were seeking donations.
I highly doubt most stache growers raised $. Maybe 1 in 5 did.
Flames raised $68k. That's like 1 period for Iggy.
I'm going to have to join the people here who believe these types of things still support the "cause" just by raising awareness.
Movember is a good example. I don't think I ever talked as much about prostate cancer in a month. Many times did "getting ourselves checked" come up in regular conversation amongst a group of guys. I think raising awareness is a good thing in itself.
Having people talk about child abuse is a pretty important part of the cause. That said, I am not on facebook, so I will not be participating.
I highly doubt most stache growers raised $. Maybe 1 in 5 did.
Flames raised $68k. That's like 1 period for Iggy.
I grew a "moustache" and raised $400, so I think Movember is a bad example. However, I put people who grew moustaches but had no interest in collecting donations up there with the facebook activists.
I'm going to have to join the people here who believe these types of things still support the "cause" just by raising awareness.
Movember is a good example. I don't think I ever talked as much about prostate cancer in a month. Many times did "getting ourselves checked" come up in regular conversation amongst a group of guys. I think raising awareness is a good thing in itself.
Having people talk about child abuse is a pretty important part of the cause. That said, I am not on facebook, so I will not be participating.
That's the whole problem. Talk is cheap and it makes people think they've done something when they really haven't.
I highly doubt most stache growers raised $. Maybe 1 in 5 did.
Flames raised $68k. That's like 1 period for Iggy.
How does Flames players growing mustaches and raising a chunk of money for prostate cancer make your point that this Facebook picture change thing is the same?
How does Flames players growing mustaches and raising a chunk of money for prostate cancer make your point that this Facebook picture change thing is the same?
Movember being equated with FB awareness campaigns is totally seperate from my statement about the relatively minute amount raised by the Flames.
80% of the people who grew staches probably didn't raise a penny. Of all the people I know who participated not a single one raised $, they all just did it because everyone at their place of work did it or their hockey team did it.
I only brought up the Flames because I think it is kind of sad that the Flames raised $68k. Let's keep in mind that is not money donated by the players, that is raised by them, simply by growing a stache.
Now that is great that cancer research has $68k that they didn't have before, but lets be realistic here. It is peanuts to them. They could have each donated $68k. Instead they get others to do the donating while they grow mustaches. It reminds me of the celebrity telethons for Katrina and such. All these filthy rich people telling middle america to donate their money. Ummm, it should be the rich jerks donating, not the middle class. But I digress, that is a whole other discussion.
Movember being equated with FB awareness campaigns is totally seperate from my statement about the relatively minute amount raised by the Flames.
80% of the people who grew staches probably didn't raise a penny. Of all the people I know who participated not a single one raised $, they all just did it because everyone at their place of work did it or their hockey team did it.
I only brought up the Flames because I think it is kind of sad that the Flames raised $68k. Let's keep in mind that is not money donated by the players, that is raised by them, simply by growing a stache.
Now that is great that cancer research has $68k that they didn't have before, but lets be realistic here. It is peanuts to them. They could have each donated $68k. Instead they get others to do the donating while they grow mustaches. It reminds me of the celebrity telethons for Katrina and such. All these filthy rich people telling middle america to donate their money. Ummm, it should be the rich jerks donating, not the middle class. But I digress, that is a whole other discussion.
Also, a very small fraction of that $68k actually makes it to cancer research. Look at how much typical medical researchers earn in a year and how much funding they typically get for their work. . . then wonder where most of the fund raising money goes.
Movember being equated with FB awareness campaigns is totally seperate from my statement about the relatively minute amount raised by the Flames.
80% of the people who grew staches probably didn't raise a penny. Of all the people I know who participated not a single one raised $, they all just did it because everyone at their place of work did it or their hockey team did it.
I only brought up the Flames because I think it is kind of sad that the Flames raised $68k. Let's keep in mind that is not money donated by the players, that is raised by them, simply by growing a stache.
Now that is great that cancer research has $68k that they didn't have before, but lets be realistic here. It is peanuts to them. They could have each donated $68k. Instead they get others to do the donating while they grow mustaches. It reminds me of the celebrity telethons for Katrina and such. All these filthy rich people telling middle america to donate their money. Ummm, it should be the rich jerks donating, not the middle class. But I digress, that is a whole other discussion.
Everyone I knew that grew a stache (myself included) raised at least $200. I also personally donated to the cause.
Although I cannot prove your 80% statistic, I am very confident that the number of people that grew a stache and raised money is much higher than the number of people that changed their FB picture and raised money (or, by extension, same with the # of people that posted their bra color or the location of their purse).
However, as I posted earlier, I'm young, and I currently have no personal passion towards helping prostate cancer. Whether or not my lack of caring outside of Movember about prostate cancer is slacktivism is another story.
Everyone I knew that grew a stache (myself included) raised at least $200. I also personally donated to the cause.
Although I cannot prove your 80% statistic, I am very confident that the number of people that grew a stache and raised money is much higher than the number of people that changed their FB pictureand raised money (or, by extension, same with the # of people that posted their bra color or the location of their purse).
However, as I posted earlier, I'm young, and I currently have no personal passion towards helping prostate cancer. Whether or not my lack of caring outside of Movember about prostate cancer is slacktivism is another story.
I definitely agree with that.
In terms of how much they help I would rank it: actual donating/volunteering etc > Movember type events > FB campaigns
Movember being equated with FB awareness campaigns is totally seperate from my statement about the relatively minute amount raised by the Flames.
80% of the people who grew staches probably didn't raise a penny. Of all the people I know who participated not a single one raised $, they all just did it because everyone at their place of work did it or their hockey team did it.
I only brought up the Flames because I think it is kind of sad that the Flames raised $68k. Let's keep in mind that is not money donated by the players, that is raised by them, simply by growing a stache.
Now that is great that cancer research has $68k that they didn't have before, but lets be realistic here. It is peanuts to them. They could have each donated $68k. Instead they get others to do the donating while they grow mustaches. It reminds me of the celebrity telethons for Katrina and such. All these filthy rich people telling middle america to donate their money. Ummm, it should be the rich jerks donating, not the middle class. But I digress, that is a whole other discussion.
And you know how much the players have donated independently to the numerous charities they support how exactly?
And you know how much the players have donated independently to the numerous charities they support how exactly?
When did I say I knew or even cared how much they donate independently?
I said I know that $68k was raised by the team, presumably through pledges and such. I believe the Flames organization matched that.
$68k is not very much. The players could have individually matched that no problem. Each. Well, maybe not Jackman and other minimum guys but I'm sure guys like Iggy and Jbo could more than make up for that.
If some filthy rich celebrity/athlete is going to encourage me to donate they damn well better match it and then some. If they don't pressure me to donate then I don't care how much they donate independently. I think it is great when they do though.
I know the Sedins donated a busload of $$ recently and good on them. Outstanding charitable donation by them. And I'm glad it wasn't kept annonymous. Pressure the other filthy rich segments of society to pay back something to society.
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