2010 / 2011 MLB Off Season Thread.

[OILFAN #81]

5 years/100 M from the Phillies. 20 M a year as compared to the 22 M a year the Yankees were offering him on a 7 year/154 M deal.

[Joborule]

My god Phillies. Just give them the pennant now why don't ya.

MLB needs a salary cap. How do you beat that rotation?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Joborule

My god Phillies. Just give them the pennant now why don't ya.

MLB needs a salary cap. How do you beat that rotation?

The Giants can still beat that rotation.

Besides, don't you like super-teams? Don't you want Halliday versus Lincecum every year?

[GirlySports]

Apparently, Lee's wife did not want him to go to NY after the classy fans at Yankee spit on her last year.

And he loved Philadelphia and the fans there
I guess Philly fans aren't so bad after all.

Leaving 40 million on the table is alot but wife comes first

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I'm disappointed Lee didn't resign in Texas, but very happy he didn't sign in New York

[corporatejay]

Don't get me wrong, I like super teams (especially since I don't have a major rooting interest in anyone after the Expos left montreal) however, without a salary cap MLB mind as well just go to a English soccer type system with different tiers. how are the Royals going to compete with the Sox, Yankees, Phillies, Mets etc..

Landing one of Gonzalez or Crawford would be a huge get for any team and the Sox got them both.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Don't get me wrong, I like super teams (especially since I don't have a major rooting interest in anyone after the Expos left montreal) however, without a salary cap MLB mind as well just go to a English soccer type system with different tiers. how are the Royals going to compete with the Sox, Yankees, Phillies, Mets etc..

Landing one of Gonzalez or Crawford would be a huge get for any team and the Sox got them both.

But the salary cap doesn't ensure equality. The Royals would still suck because they wouldn't spend anywhere near the cap. And signing Gil Meche for $55 Million is stupid cap or not.

The drawback to the salary cap would be a watered down product. Halliday, Oswalt, Lee and Hamels would all be on different teams and with them only pitching once every 5 days, we get 4 other days of crap.

The Yankees have spent about 2 billion dollars in the last 10 years and have won only once. Baseball's had 9 different winners in the last 10 years, with only Boston being a repeat winner.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

But the salary cap doesn't ensure equality. .

The NFL is the best pro league on the planet because there is a level playing field. Green Bay can compete with New York.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by troutman

The NFL is the best pro league on the planet because there is a level playing field. Green Bay can compete with New York.

The salary cap still doesn't ensure equality. The NFL is successfull not only because of the salary cap, but because of revenue sharing as well. All 32 teams split the TV revenue equally. In MLB, teams can have their own TV channels that generate hundreds of millions for some clubs. That is a large part of the inequality in baseball.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by troutman

The NFL is the best pro league on the planet because there is a level playing field. Green Bay can compete with New York.

Green Bay could compete with New York in baseball too. Milwaukee is better than the Mets.

The NFL would be successful under either system. Gambling money my friend. Gambling equates to more eyeballs watching tv.

[secol]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Apparently, Lee's wife did not want him to go to NY after the classy fans at Yankee spit on her last year.

And he loved Philadelphia and the fans there
I guess Philly fans aren't so bad after all.

Leaving 40 million on the table is alot but wife comes first

yeah i was going to say that.....probably his wife was the main reason why he didn't go to NY

[Montana Moe]

Sound like his son was one of the main reasons, at least according to Colin Cowherd. Lee's son has Leukemia, which is in remission.

The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia is supposedly the best and most innovative in the country.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Green Bay could compete with New York in baseball too. Milwaukee is better than the Mets.

The NFL would be successful under either system. Gambling money my friend. Gambling equates to more eyeballs watching tv.

Green Bay of the MLB would very rarely compete with the New York Yankees..... It might happen once every 10 years type of thing...

Cap ensures all teams have a chance in NFL, take away the cap and one team will start to move towards the New York Yankee's model....

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by flambers

Green Bay of the MLB would very rarely compete with the New York Yankees..... It might happen once every 10 years type of thing...

Cap ensures all teams have a chance in NFL, take away the cap and one team will start to move towards the New York Yankee's model....

They're pulling away now. Patriots are winning more Super Bowls than the Yankees are winning World Series.

I think both systems work for the respective sports. Neither is better than the other.

NFL is a team game, with systems, coordinators, schemes etccc.. so a team environment when on an even playing field works for that sport.

Baseball is a game of individuals, batter versus pitcher. So not sure a salary cap would work as the teams get diluted and you see unknown against unknown too much. I think baseball wants super teams and super matchups. Didn't everyone get excited when Lincecum and Halliday faced off twice in the NLCS? Parity prevents such matchups.

[Caged Great]

I for one would like to see different teams have a chance for a change.

Sometimes you forget that teams like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Washington even exist because they consistently suck. Even some teams had their "shot" and are done for the foreseeable future like Seattle, Cleveland, Houston, Colorado, San Diego, Tampa Bay, Toronto, Oakland.

I don't know about you, but I hate seeing a combination of these teams

Yanks, Red Sox, Twins, Tigers, Angels, Rangers, Braves, Phillies, Cards, Reds, Dodgers, Giants being near or in contention year in year out. It gets a little redundant because why bother having 30 teams. Just cut the number down to 16, that way you'll always have all-star teams playing all the time.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by flambers

Green Bay of the MLB would very rarely compete with the New York Yankees..... It might happen once every 10 years type of thing...

Cap ensures all teams have a chance in NFL, take away the cap and one team will start to move towards the New York Yankee's model....

Are the Yankees really the model for success though? Financially, yes. However, spending $2 billion in salary over the last ten years has got them one World Series title.

[zukes]

[QUOTE=Caged Great;2841538]Even some teams had their "shot" and are done for the foreseeable future like ...... Colorado .....[QUOTE]

ummm? care to elaborate?

[CaramonLS]

Funny to look at that deal - Phillies probably could have saved 5 million per year if they had just given Lee his extension last off season instead of trading him away.

Hope those prospects from Seattle are worth that!

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

Sound like his son was one of the main reasons, at least according to Colin Cowherd. Lee's son has Leukemia, which is in remission.

The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia is supposedly the best and most innovative in the country.

As a Rangers fan I'm totally cool with that. I heard that was why Olaf Kolzig refused trades from Washington to contending teams, because his son has a disability where one of the best hospitals in the world for him was in Washington or Baltimore.

Apparently if the Rangers went 7 years he would have signed with Texas,
although that doesn't seem to make sense to me as why would an extra year make a difference when he took less money and less years in Philadelphia. I wouldn't think the external factors would be swayed by another year. Source Link

[RedHot25]

May have missed it already in this thread, but Russell Martin likely a Yankee: http://tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=345459