The Social Network: Movie of the Year?

[icecube]

I saw it today and it was brilliant. You can add best actor, score, editing and sound editing to the list of nominations. I'd put my money on it winning the majority of them too.

[Weiser Wonder]

For a mainstream movie, it was about perfect. Great acting from pretty much everyone. I was impressed by the directing, not to the extent it should get best picture, however. It wasn't in anyway innovative, but great directing nonetheless. The writing was top-notch, and Sorkin seems to have found a more grounded perspective from his TV days. I thought it was an interesting touch to make Zuckerberg into a pretty pathetic and needy character.

[Phanuthier]

Well I gave it a shot and watched it today, and I thought it was pretty good. Compared to Inception, I would say Inception as more intellectual and more detailed and creative while Facebook movie was well written and just generally well done. Good movie and I really enjoyed it, but I don't think it blew me away.

The underlying success of Facebook is well known and done a lot, but I feel as though a lot of people and critics are impressed or blown away by it. Facebook isn't the first or the only one to thrive on elitist exclusivity, nor will they be the last.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Well I gave it a shot and watched it today, and I thought it was pretty good. Compared to Inception, I would say Inception as more intellectual and more detailed and creative while Facebook movie was well written and just generally well done. Good movie and I really enjoyed it, but I don't think it blew me away.

The underlying success of Facebook is well known and done a lot, but I feel as though a lot of people and critics are impressed or blown away by it. Facebook isn't the first or the only one to thrive on elitist exclusivity, nor will they be the last.

I think The Social Network was more intellectual than is obvious. The whole business aspect was given a sexual and emotional nature, that was pretty astute and what surprised me most about the movie. Inception was intellectually ambitious, but devoid of sexuality at all. Which kind of lessened its impact in my mind.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Ark2

and score!!!

From what I've heard of the music, it's so similar to NIN it could be straight out of any album over the past few years. I downloaded the free sample and while it's pretty neat, it's almost entirely unlistenable to me on its own. Must work well with the tone of the movie. It's pretty cool they tried something so different.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Ark2

and score!!!

I read it isn't eligible because it contains 2 recycled songs from a previous nin album.

[MarchHare]

Saw this last night. My wife and I were the only two people to laugh at what I consider to be the best line in the film (paraphrasing this from memory):

"He's in violation of Massachusetts state law, he's in violation of federal law. Heck, he's even in violation of Harvard law."

"There is no Harvard law!"

I guess the joke was too subtle for the rest of the audience.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I read it isn't eligible because it contains 2 recycled songs from a previous nin album.

Seriously? Thouse songs were re-worked though.

[Parallex]

Saw the movie yesterday... I quite enjoyed it. Albeit it was a bit of a hachet job on Mark Zuckerberg and Sean Parker (well to be honest it was a bit of a hachet job on everyone involved but Eduardo Saverin, Zuckerberg and Parker come off the worst). Still the writting was excellent (Book it for an Oscar for best adapted screenplay) and featured excellent acting from Eisenberg (albeit it wasn't too much of a departure from his other notable roles) and Timberlake.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Saw this last night. My wife and I were the only two people to laugh at what I consider to be the best line in the film (paraphrasing this from memory):

"He's in violation of Massachusetts state law, he's in violation of federal law. Heck, he's even in violation of Harvard law."

"There is no Harvard law!"

I guess the joke was too subtle for the rest of the audience.

Funny line, but what's the joke?

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Saw the movie yesterday... I quite enjoyed it. Albeit it was a bit of a hachet job on Mark Zuckerberg and Sean Parker (well to be honest it was a bit of a hachet job on everyone involved but Eduardo Saverin, Zuckerberg and Parker come off the worst). Still the writting was excellent (Book it for an Oscar for best adapted screenplay) and featured excellent acting from Eisenberg (albeit it wasn't too much of a departure from his other notable roles) and Timberlake.

Why do people consider it a hatchet job?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Why do people consider it a hatchet job?

I think its because there is no hero and no protagonist. Its easier to focus on people's shortcomings, and that was brought to the forfront for every single character. I don't know if you would say its a brutal hatchet job, but there is no hero in this movie. Just a bunch of real people that suffer from real issues in every day life, no matter how smart or rich and popular they might seem... they're still just people. The best example was the movie starting out with Z trying to be the "big man" to Albright, and for all the money, fame and power Z had, the movie cut out and ended with him sending Albright a Facebook request. I thought that was really well done.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Funny line, but what's the joke?

The line "There is no Harvard law!" can be interpreted in two ways:

1) Rules governing student conduct are not legally binding outside of the university's internal disciplinary boards

2) The Harvard Law School (a.k.a. "Harvard Law"), one of the most prestigious law schools in the world, doesn't exist

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I think its because there is no hero and no protagonist. Its easier to focus on people's shortcomings, and that was brought to the forfront for every single character.

Except Saverin, he get's portrayed as the innocent, good, supportive friend who get's screwed over. Not a surprise since he was a consultant on the book the film was based off of. He's not the "hero" of the film, like you say the film has no heroes but he's the only person/character that doesn't come off as a bad person on balance.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Why do people consider it a hatchet job?

Because it takes the side of Saverin and the Winklevoss twins

it is basically their side of the story, with the only real information provided by Zuckerberg found online, i.e the blog he is writing while making the facemash website at the start of the movie is taken from his actual blog online. The only thing changed is the girls name.

It tries to give Zuckerberg motive for why he did these things, I won't say what in case people haven't seen it but its obvious in the movie, and the motivation makes him look jealous and petty

Parker isn't made to look very good as well, although Saverin is made to look like a bit of a fool he definitely comes off "best" of all the people involved in the creating of facebook. Which considering he helped the writer who wrote the book the movie is based off makes sense.

It made for a great story and an entertaining movie but there is definitely a slant to it.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Except Saverin, he get's portrayed as the innocent, good, supportive friend who get's screwed over. Not a surprise since he was a consultant on the book the film was based off of. He's not the "hero" of the film, like you say the film has no heroes but he's the only person/character that doesn't come off as a bad person on balance.

Was he though? Listening to Ben Mezrich(author "Accidental Billionaires",)he said Saverin did not talk to him after he was awarded 1 billion $,thought maybe he was scared.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by chummer

Was he though? Listening to Ben Mezrich(author "Accidental Billionaires",)he said Saverin did not talk to him after he was awarded 1 billion $,thought maybe he was scared.

because the settlement came with a non-disclosure agreement

but the stuff (transcripts) from the depositions was put online, so thats where the writers got that stuff

[FanIn80]

One of my favourite lines was when they were in the restaurant with Parker (Napster creator). I can't remember the word-for-word, but it was something like...

Parker: Ever since I took down the record companies...
Eduardo: Wait. What? They beat you in court!
Parker: You're right, they did beat me. You feel like buying a Tower Records these days, though?

All-in-all, a completely awesome movie. Totally different league than Inception (which I also loved).

[Maritime Q-Scout]

The best exchange of the movie was along the lines of

Laywer: So he put in $1,000 and then deposited another $18,000 for a total of $19,000.
Zuckerberg: Wait a minute
Laywer: Is there a mistake in what I just told you?
Zuperberg: I'm just checking your math . . . yep $19,000 I get the same thing

I couldn't find the exact quote online

I also loved

Tyler Winklevoss: I'm 6'5", 220 pounds, and there are two of me!

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Except Saverin, he get's portrayed as the innocent, good, supportive friend who get's screwed over. Not a surprise since he was a consultant on the book the film was based off of. He's not the "hero" of the film, like you say the film has no heroes but he's the only person/character that doesn't come off as a bad person on balance.

See, I don't think Z looked like a 'bad guy' at all. Yes, he tried to screw his friend, but part of me thinks there is more to that story (creative differences or something). Clearly Eduardo wanted to take the company a certain way and had really no understanding of how to monetize the facebook brand. That's kind of a big deal. Parker, who came off as y, did put Z in touch with people who were willing to give him tonnes of money to push the busines forward.

As for the Twins. Those guys are bafoons. They're "idea" was just that, an idea. Execution is everything and those two idiots didn't know how to get it done. Z said it perfectly, "Match.com for harvard". Guess what? I had the idea for a portable mp3 player in 1998, but considering I had no idea how to make it, market it or program it I couldn't get it done.


It's kind of hard to argue with anything Z did when you consider how successful the business is. WHo knows, had he listened to his CFO's "advice" Facebook might not be the goliath it is today.