Calgary Civic Election Poll #2: Who do you support for Mayor?

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by jammies

Green text is for when it isn't obvious.

Green text is only a last resort and should only be used in communicating with morons.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yeah, it wasn't. Plus, there's always a divide into two sides when it comes to civic debates on this board. Let's just say 4x4 and I usually aren't on the same side. But you wouldn't know that.

C'mon, we agree on the Peace Bridge. And that McIver's a tool.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by 4X4

C'mon, we agree on the Peace Bridge. And that McIver's a tool.

Agreed.

[Slava]

The poll they showed on Global at 5 is horrible news for the enormous majority of candidates. The news at 6 could be game changing even at this early stage.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Slava

The poll they showed on Global at 5 is horrible news for the enormous majority of candidates. The news at 6 could be game changing even at this early stage.

What did it look like?

[Slava]

At 5 it was people asked by an independent firm who they could name that was running for mayor. 27% said Higgins, 20% McIver, 2% Hawkesworth and everyone else at either one percent or zero.

Sure it was the day Higgins announced and all, but even so...gives a pretty clear direction of how things are already shaping up.

At 6 they are going to show the voters intentions.

[MarchHare]

Polls at this stage are absolutely meaningless and little more than a name recognition contest. Once the election is closer and the candidates start actively campaigning, then polling results will be more meaningful.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

I am stunned Barb Higgins has 10 votes already, I guess name recognition really is all you need to win political office. I mean come on, what in bloody hell qualifies a lifetime news anchor to run one of the largest cities in the country?

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Yep, he certainly would be the poster boy for this type of thing...him and Ventura.

With regards to the Global poll, hard to believe that many Calgarians have not payed more attention to the early stages of this campaign. I know it is only one event but jeez, almost every mayoral candidate was represented very strongly at the Sun and Salsa festival. I think this stat just goes to prove the 30% voter turn out we will get should come as no surprise, and that is likely a very good thing for Barb Higgins.

[Bunk]

So literally only 1/5 calgarians could even name McIver as a candidate? In the sample of 500, literally 10 people could name Hawkesworth as a candiate? I'd laugh if it weren't so sad.

Apparently the poll yielded a result of 16% Higgins, 15% McIver, all others around 1% and 51% undecided.

Let's just say that this is a hardly a useful poll. I'd like to see likely voters since probably about only 1/3 calgarians will actually show up.

Originally Posted by Slava

At 5 it was people asked by an independent firm who they could name that was running for mayor. 27% said Higgins, 20% McIver, 2% Hawkesworth and everyone else at either one percent or zero.

Sure it was the day Higgins announced and all, but even so...gives a pretty clear direction of how things are already shaping up.

At 6 they are going to show the voters intentions.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Let's just say that this is a hardly a useful poll. I'd like to see likely voters since probably about only 1/3 calgarians will actually show up.

I agree, but as I alluded to above and as proven (IMO) by this (CP poll #2) new poll, even a large percentage of that third that will vote, will only do so on name recognition. If virtually nobody (outside of the few of us that follow municipal politics on the INET) can name a Nenshi or a Hehr I think that only helps Higgins. I know there is a long race ahead, but a bad sign IMO.

[SebC]

Whatever faith I might have had in democracy is rapidly dwindling.

[Regulator75]

Lanny should run for Mayor, his East side Dodge commercials are gold.

He'd take Barb down!

[Regulator75]

^^^ He'd only get two votes. His and his Moms.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by fotze

Eric Francis is thinking "fata me, maybe I should run."

LOL...he probably wouldnt do half bad....

Jokes aside, with the rumours we all heard for a while, I wonder how Mr.King would have faired in this race?

[Regulator75]

King is too big for this city. He should be President of the world. Hahaha

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Bunk

So literally only 1/5 calgarians could even name McIver as a candidate? In the sample of 500, literally 10 people could name Hawkesworth as a candiate? I'd laugh if it weren't so sad.

Apparently the poll yielded a result of 16% Higgins, 15% McIver, all others around 1% and 51% undecided.

Let's just say that this is a hardly a useful poll. I'd like to see likely voters since probably about only 1/3 calgarians will actually show up.

I agree that the turnout is an issue and all. Problem is that the poll doesn't get better. The poll has Higgins and McIver at 16 and 15% and the others are at 3% and less. There are 49% of the voters that are undecided, but many of these are not likely to vote.

What it boils down to is that Higgins and McIver are at 44 and 40 percent respectively of the decided voters based on this poll.

The poll has it's problems, no doubt. But it's a pretty obvious two horse race already. For some candidates this has to be an eye-opener. Wayne Stewart has been advertising for about 2 months and likely spent $25k on this...for less than 2% in this poll. Nenshi is in the same percentage range and he was even behind the chicken guy in the Ivrnet poll. Hawkesworth will likely be around until the bitter end, but his numbers were literally one vote more than for Hehr, and in this poll those figures are dismal.

Anyway, I was shocked at the poll. I'm not saying it's over for these other candidates, but the road just became a lot more difficult with results like that.

[kipperfan]

Well, with the depressing tone this thread has taken (regarding the Global poll) I decided to try and do something. I sent my info into Nenshi's website with regards to helping out with the campaign. I have never really done anything like this before but I will choke if I see a guy like Nenshi get squashed by the likes of Barb Higgins and Ric McIvor. Likely I will have little to no impact but I invite anyone who feels the same as me to try and help, clearly we will need all the help we can get...

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

Well, with the depressing tone this thread has taken (regarding the Global poll) I decided to try and do something. I sent my info into Nenshi's website with regards to helping out with the campaign. I have never really done anything like this before but I will choke if I see a guy like Nenshi get squashed by the likes of Barb Higgins and Ric McIvor. Likely I will have little to no impact but I invite anyone who feels the same as me to try and help, clearly we will need all the help we can get...

Right on. And I say that regardless of who you volunteer for.

Good campaigns, successful ones; need an army of people on the ground. Every little bit someone can do, does make a difference. Not only to the campaign, but for democracy in general.

[Kelekin]

Until Higgins has a platform (as some have said), I see zero reason to vote for her. Based on her words up to this point, she intends to take care of typical municipal issues that -any- mayor should take care of, such as increasing efficiency. But something in her words make me believe she will not partake in expanding spending where we need it to be spent. Bronconnier hoarded money - money that we could use to do things like improve efficiency. How do you improve efficiency? This always goes back to the debt versus defecit issue for me. Debt and deficit are two different things, and if we have a surplus, it means we're not spending enough. Simple as that.

If efficiency is really important to her, I need her to prove to me how she is going to manage it while being fiscally conservative.