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Old 05-06-2010, 01:16 PM   #101
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If the invading army's hands are tied to public opinion like the US in Iraq then yes it would be.
A Nazi invasion of the US would not be the same. If there was an armed population the Nazis would just flatten the town by air as a statement to the next town. They wouldnt be knocking on doors looking for the enemy like the US has to do in Fallujah.
Knocking on doors?
Not exactly. Here is a recent thread about how they conduct business in the middle east.
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ight=wikileaks

Anyone trying to carpet bomb American towns will go broke in no time. It's a big country with thousands of towns...
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:41 PM   #102
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Knocking on doors?
Not exactly. Here is a recent thread about how they conduct business in the middle east.
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ight=wikileaks

So your going to take one proven instance and provided it as a basis that the American's are doing this everywhere.

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Old 05-06-2010, 01:45 PM   #103
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Would I go fight the Nazi's? I think my answer is the entirety of Farley Mowat's "And No Birds Sang."

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Did you read the companion piece "My Father's Son" which was a publication of all of the letters back and forth between Mowat and his family during his service in WWII.

Its a tremendous book and adds to No Birds
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:14 PM   #104
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Extreme right wing movements seem to be on the rise in many places in Europe, so it wouldn't surprise me if this question really does become relevant sooner or later. For example, in Hungary and Austria, there have been politcal gains by such groups. Hungary's recent election showed a 17% support for their right wing facsist party and supporters of the party often refer to Budapest as "Jewdapest" and use bumper stickers that say; "Jew Free Car".

As economic times stay shakey, I think we can see a lot of extreme views become more mainstream. In Greece, a lot the violent protests are being orchestrated by the communist party and Hrisi Avgi (basically the Greek Nazi party).
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Problem is Russia would never even try a land war with China, China has twice as many active troops and 5 times more reserve troops available, they would stomp Russia in a week.
Russia has a larger airforce but with mostly "aged" equipment nowdays so I wouldn't even give them much of an advantage there either.





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Anyone seen the movie SS Doomtrooper?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795457/

It was on movie central like 2 years ago and really documents the war well. I think we would all be in for a good Nazi fight based on the reality of that movie.
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Anyone seen the movie SS Doomtrooper?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795457/

It was on movie central like 2 years ago and really documents the war well. I think we would all be in for a good Nazi fight based on the reality of that movie.
Lol... 2.7 IMDB rating

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It is somewhat of a love movie. But a G.M. soldier is "invented" by a Nazi scientist. The soldier is a big zombie that has electric powers. Of course, it takes the whole movie to stop it. That is a prototype, but they are making even more. The monster is nearly impossible to defeat, but it is eventually stopped by a fearless soldier. The soldier dies in the process of killing the nearly unstoppable soldier, and three people make it out alive. The soldier, mad and ferocious, ends up killing some Nazi soldiers in the chaos. And of course, it does not stop there. It kills its maker and destroys the castle with its own explosion. So, the female and male soldiers end up falling in love. Written by Godsmacker5500
As WWII is winding down, the Nazi's have developed the uber weapon, a super soldier, a blueish pink version of the Incredible Hulk. A team of Allied soldiers, including a snooty Frenchman, "Brooklyn" (with the heaviest of fake accents) among others is sent behind enemy lines to destroy this secret Nazi weapon. Written by Cobram
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:42 PM   #108
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So your going to take one proven instance and provided it as a basis that the American's are doing this everywhere.

Bravo.

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You're right.
I should have mentioned the drone attacks in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

If you think the wiki leaks video was an isolated incident, you're kidding youself.
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You're right.
I should have mentioned the drone attacks in Pakistan/Afghanistan.

If you think the wiki leaks video was an isolated incident, you're kidding youself.
I didn't say that, but your making it out that American's are over there for the butchery and killing. rumbling A130 gunships over schoolyards while the killings good.
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Lol... 2.7 IMDB rating
Like I said, really realistic portrayal of the war.
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Nazis were known to have landed in Newfoundland and Labrador and set up weather and surveillance stations. Locals beat down them weather stations though. Now you see where Homer Simpson gets his motivation from.
Weather Station Kurt was the only station they set up and there is no evidence anyone destroyed it during the war. It is on display at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa. The Nazis stamped it with 'Canadian Meteorological Service' and it wasn't identified as a WWII relic until the early 80s. It had sustained damage but it could have from polar bears for all anyone knows.

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See that map... Look at all that land that is now "polish"
Okay... but why is that land German? It was Polish before the Teutonic knights conquered it for what would be Prussia so there is an equal argument that that land is indeed Polish. It all depends on your historical frame of reference. A unified Germany didn't even exist before 1871. Stating that parts of modern-day Poland are indisputedly German echoes the same claims that the Third Reich had made in justifying their invasion in 1939.
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Okay... but why is that land German? It was Polish before the Teutonic knights conquered it for what would be Prussia so there is an equal argument that that land is indeed Polish. It all depends on your historical frame of reference. A unified Germany didn't even exist before 1871. Stating that parts of modern-day Poland are indisputedly German echoes the same claims that the Third Reich had made in justifying their invasion in 1939.
Some people in Lithuania consider a large part of Poland to be "Lithuanian" land.
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My Family believes that most of Germany belongs to us. So to the German people . . . Get off of my lawn
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Weather Station Kurt was the only station they set up and there is no evidence anyone destroyed it during the war. It is on display at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa. The Nazis stamped it with 'Canadian Meteorological Service' and it wasn't identified as a WWII relic until the early 80s. It had sustained damage but it could have from polar bears for all anyone knows.

Okay... but why is that land German? It was Polish before the Teutonic knights conquered it for what would be Prussia so there is an equal argument that that land is indeed Polish. It all depends on your historical frame of reference. A unified Germany didn't even exist before 1871. Stating that parts of modern-day Poland are indisputedly German echoes the same claims that the Third Reich had made in justifying their invasion in 1939.
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Some people in Lithuania consider a large part of Poland to be "Lithuanian" land.
And it wasn't too long ago Canada didn't exist either. If you go back far enough, everywhere was conquered at least a few times by someone, from someone else. It's stupid for someone to think of their "ancestral homeland", as it's generally a fairytale. An evil fairytale, that causes grown men to get greedy for what they think they can justify taking from the only people who actually matter - the people currently there.
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So your going to take one proven instance and provided it as a basis that the American's are doing this everywhere.

Bravo.

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I cant believe they smashed everything then capped the whole family.
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I would volunteer...for the Nazi's.
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Weather Station Kurt was the only station they set up and there is no evidence anyone destroyed it during the war. It is on display at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa. The Nazis stamped it with 'Canadian Meteorological Service' and it wasn't identified as a WWII relic until the early 80s. It had sustained damage but it could have from polar bears for all anyone knows.

Okay... but why is that land German? It was Polish before the Teutonic knights conquered it for what would be Prussia so there is an equal argument that that land is indeed Polish. It all depends on your historical frame of reference. A unified Germany didn't even exist before 1871. Stating that parts of modern-day Poland are indisputedly German echoes the same claims that the Third Reich had made in justifying their invasion in 1939.
Ehh I'm from the kingdom of Bavaria. I can care less about the Prussians.
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My Family believes that most of Germany belongs to us. So to the German people . . . Get off of my lawn
what? I can find a mexican to mow it for cheap!
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Hell, yeah. I'd volunteer to fight the Nazis. Those guys are well into their nineties by now and I'm pretty sure I could annihalate one of them with a single punch while posing little risk to myself.
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Obviously they also had a legitimate beef with the Jews as well. I mean the subjugation and eventual attempted extermination were all German Governmental Policies even before WWII started. And those nasty gypsies and gays all owed Germany contended land.

And he had a legitimate beef against Austria, I mean it was pretty much his country of origin and somebody else was living in his house.
So I guess you would have volunteered to fight the USA over its segregation laws aswell? Austria was forbidden from joining Germany by the Treaty of Versailles. Imagine if Newfoundland had been forbidden from joining Canada.
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