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malcolmk14 · 06-08-2010, 11:06 AM

Michael C Hall as the Riddler would be insane (in a good way).

I don't know if NPH could pull it off... but then again Heath Ledger was a surprise.

I like the Christina Hendricks as Poison Ivy suggestion, too.

Yeah_Baby · 06-08-2010, 11:17 AM

The problem with Ivy: how do you pull that off in the Nolanverse?

cKy · 06-08-2010, 11:21 AM

That NPH fake poster is brutal.

It's Morgan FREEMAN... not Freedman.

Stupid nerds.

GreenLantern · 06-08-2010, 12:05 PM

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That NPH fake poster is brutal.

It's Morgan FREEMAN... not Freedman.

Stupid nerds.

HPLovecraft · 06-08-2010, 12:34 PM

I'm more of a Tintin fan, myself, anyway.

Flaming Choy · 06-10-2010, 12:58 PM

Rumor of the day is Joseph Gordon Levitt as Riddler.

http://flicksided.com/2010/06/joseph...r-in-batman-3/

Hemi-Cuda · 06-10-2010, 01:15 PM

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Rumor of the day is Joseph Gordon Levitt as Riddler.

http://flicksided.com/2010/06/joseph...r-in-batman-3/

make sense, Nolan likes working with people he knows and picking Levitt for the Riddler is just as off the wall as picking Ledger for the Joker

CaptainCrunch · 06-10-2010, 01:27 PM

WEll, hopefully this will all make us forget about his portrayal of Cobra Commander. What a terribel movie that was.

Sainters7 · 06-10-2010, 02:53 PM

On a side note, I'm surprised this will be the last one. I'm not saying they should kill it by dragging it out like so many sequels have done in the past or anything. But I thought I had heard that, before he died, Heath Ledger was signed on to reprise his Joker role for at least a couple more movies. Maybe his death killed the story angle and Nolan didn't want to try to piece together some new direction and just chose to end it. Or maybe I just heard wrong.

3 Justin 3 · 06-10-2010, 04:01 PM

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On a side note, I'm surprised this will be the last one. I'm not saying they should kill it by dragging it out like so many sequels have done in the past or anything. But I thought I had heard that, before he died, Heath Ledger was signed on to reprise his Joker role for at least a couple more movies. Maybe his death killed the story angle and Nolan didn't want to try to piece together some new direction and just chose to end it. Or maybe I just heard wrong.

The last I heard was that Heath was signed on to do 1 more, but due to his death he obviously couldn't. This caused Nolan to re-think the entire direction to take.

Pastiche · 06-11-2010, 06:41 AM

They should just re-cast Joker. It would be fine along the prose of comics where different artists and writers have often very different takes on characters.

A movie with the Riddler would be lame. The Riddler is crappy. Nothing beats the psychotic masochism of the Joker.

What would be so wrong with re-casting Joker?

MrMastodonFarm · 06-11-2010, 06:54 AM

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What would be so wrong with re-casting Joker?

Because Heath Ledger did such an amazing job as the Joker that anyone who came in to "replace" him would have over the top expectations it would be tough to deal with.

Heath died, so IMO in this Nolan version of the Batman franchise, so is the joker.

Pastiche · 06-11-2010, 07:08 AM

That's a pretty condescending attitude to the thousands of excellent professional actors out there. Heath Ledger is the be-all-end-all of Jokers? Hardly, he can be re-imagined, re-cast easily, there is so much to work with with that character that another equally accomplished actor could do an excellent job.

Heath died, but the Joker didn't.

MrMastodonFarm · 06-11-2010, 07:09 AM

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he can be re-imagined,

Definitly, whenever they do another batch of Batman movies.

But right now, with these Nolan batman movies, let's just move on.

Bring_Back_Shantz · 06-11-2010, 08:22 AM

Sure they could go ahead and recast the joker. But if it's for more than a small role, like if he is the main antagonist again, I can pretty much guarantee that no matter how good whoever does it is, the almost universal opinion will be "Well he wasn't nearly as good as Heath (thoughts and prayers), so they totally ruined the movie"

Recasting the Joker for more than a small role, is a great way to guarantee that most people bitch about the movie.

underGRADFlame · 06-11-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Sure they could go ahead and recast the joker. But if it's for more than a small role, like if he is the main antagonist again, I can pretty much guarantee that no matter how good whoever does it is, the almost universal opinion will be "Well he wasn't nearly as good as Heath (thoughts and prayers), so they totally ruined the movie"

Recasting the Joker for more than a small role, is a great way to guarantee that most people bitch about the movie.

Yeah it needs to almost be a cameo, Joker in Arkham laughing manically in his cell would be cool I still think the only one who could pull it off is Depp.

Bring_Back_Shantz · 06-11-2010, 09:05 AM

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Yeah it needs to almost be a cameo, Joker in Arkham laughing manically in his cell would be cool I still think the only one who could pull it off is Depp.

That's kind of what I'd like to see too.
Joker is still alive, as far as we know, and the last movie had a cameo from scarecrow, so there is a bit of continuity between the two.
I'd be a shame if they just went with "Oh the Joker? Oh, he's in jail, we don't have to worry about him".
It'd be cool if they somehow acknowleded that he's still around, and maybe even threw him on camera for a few minutes, but any more than that and they're just asking for the Interwebz to explode with "OMG they totally ruined the movies!!!!!".

Pastiche · 06-11-2010, 09:10 AM

Thing about Joker is that Arkham can only contain his danger, not eliminate it. To have a movie without Joker influencing the events would be a disappointment. Especially if it was just the crappy Riddler leaving clues around for Batman. I know they'll probably have a liberal interpretation of the Riddler but he just pales in comparison to the Joker. It will be very tough to top the second movie.

CaptainCrunch · 06-11-2010, 09:51 AM

I don't see the need for the Joker in the next movie. They can mention him at the start, or during it.

Maybe Batman goes to Arkham in the course of his investigations, and as we walk by a cell we hear the Jokers voice saying "You complete me" and thats it.

My hope is that they don't follow the grundgy phycho formula and make the Riddler a over the top crazy killer. It would be too joker like.

There's no doubt in my mind that there will be other Batman movies after Nolan and probably Bale leave at the end of this third one. They can reboot Joker then.

But the performance by Ledger was so strong, and I would still to see the backstory of his joker because to me he's so much like a failed psychology student who's world crumbled around him and drove him to perform his experiments on the failures of individuals and society.

I still go back to the big lie on the Jokers part when he's talking to Dent and he basically states that he doesn't have a plan, and he's like a dog chasing cars, he wouldn't know what do do when he got there. But everything he did was planned to the 9th degree, with the goal in mind of corrupting Batman.

Any performance by any actor playing the joker is going to be dissected and discussed in great and gory detail with the conclusion being that he's a weak contender to Ledger.

Honestly I would have loved to see a Joker movie with no Batman, thats like an origin movie.

I want to see what gave him the scars, and where he came from.

I want I want I want.

rubecube · 06-11-2010, 10:49 AM

Count me in the crowd who doesn't want to see the Riddler. I'd much rather see Penguin as a new, diabolical mob boss.