Are you sure? Why would Ed Harris be involved in an European production?
Could be several reasons.
First is that foreign actors often do Hollywood movies. Just because it was funded by a European company doesn't mean they wouldn't cast an american.
Second, is that like many Hollywood movies that use Brits for roles as Romans, Nazi's etc, the producers may have liked the contrast of having Brits as the Russian characters and an American as the nazi.
Just checked the wiki page and it doesn't specifically say but it does have an almost all Euro cast, was filmed in Europe and is directed by a French guy.
What do you mean Stalingrad scene? The entire movie is in Stalingrad.
The scene of them coming into Stalingrad across the river. Half the guys get guns, half ammo, Russian officers ready to kill anyone who retreats. It's pretty powerful. I can't find the scene but it's flashed up in this trailer at about the 1:35 mark.
Oh, and notice the trailer has Paramount and Mandalay Bay presents splashed all across it. The real (lead) production company (according to IMDB) is KC Medien which is/was indeed German.
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I really enjoyed the Hurt Locker, but I've learned to seperate real life military training from the movies a long time ago. Things that drive me absolutely bonkers and I see it in every movie.
1) No intervals - The soldiers move in one big clump, half the time I'm mimicing throwing a hand grenade because I could get a medal of honour against these guys by killing enmass. Worst offenders - The hurt locker, Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, StarShip Troopers.
2) No oversight, or the old "coverme argument" - They all ardently watch as their comrade goes clomping across a road or field or stream. They're just focused on the guy, there's no supporting arcs of fire, there's no flanking patrols, there's no supported platoons, its one guy running across the field. Worst offenders Full Metal Jacket.
3) People splitting off and going on their own - Drives me crazy, the guy just takes off into the jungle to run down a fleeing enemy while the rest of his platoon wait for him while worriedly smoking cigarettes. Really bad offender - Platoon
4) no fields of fire - Everyone stares straight ahead instead of setting up fields of fire.
5) Noise dicipline - Hey did you know that whispers are louder then talking quietly? Neither do they in the movies
6) Lack of shrapnel - When things explode they fire off whirling killing chunks of red hot metal. With the exception of a few movies they always show the brave hero standing there or walking towards his troops as explosive rounds go off 5 feet away from them, or a grenade explodes 10 feet away. If you toss a grenade in the middle of McMahon stadium the shrapnel will probably hit the players benches. It also pisses me off that they always show artillary hitting the ground. For the most part you used variable fused airbursts to kill infantry.
7) Cammo'd and hiding in the open - They always have them standing in the open yaking away then they're all shocked when buddy buys it and he was only 5 days from going home. I have to honestly say that I never once stood out in the open when I was in the military . . . tree's ditches and walls were my friend. Oh and commo doesn't make you invisible in downtown Baghdad.
8) Hyper accurate napalm strikes or bombing strikes. I mean these pilots must have all gone to red flag. Forrest Gump drove me crazy when he was missed by 6 inches by a napalm cannister.
9) The big one for me, the radio use - It always drives me nuts when some guys on the radio and he uses the word repeat - "Its say again" "Repeat" means send another arty or bomb strike at the same location as last time.
10) The hero charge - Discussed below, where they see an objective and they go bounding across the opening to take it. The radio is the most powerful weapon in your arsenal, and pilots and artymen just love to blow stuff up.
There are about a thousand more, but these ones drive me crazy on an epic scale.
Thanks for ruining every war movie for me Captain!
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Forgot another one that drives me nuts. They always show soldiers chambering rounds just before they walk into a room or as they're sneaking up on an enemy.
Do these people not understand how loud it is to cycle your breech? Just stupid. Thats what the safeties for. You chamber the round long before you come into battle and snap the safety.
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Forgot another one that drives me nuts. They always show soldiers chambering rounds just before they walk into a room or as they're sneaking up on an enemy.
Do these people not understand how loud it is to cycle your breech? Just stupid. Thats what the safeties for. You chamber the round long before you come into battle and snap the safety.
Yeah, that is a weird one too. And its not just in war movies. Basically all movies that involve guns.
Yeah, that is a weird one too. And its not just in war movies. Basically all movies that involve guns.
Even 24 does it.
heh. 24 would need its own thread to cover all the inaccuracies and stupid stuff that show does. But I still watch because it is so intense every single week.
I don't have a problem with artistic license when it comes to the majority of war movies since it makes for better dialogue and cinematography.
However with The Hurt Locker, too many people applauded it for it's "realism", that's when it bothers me. The only people saying how realistic it was were people who were never in those situations.
Also, the movie was f'ing boring as hell, I'm sorry.
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I don't have a problem with artistic license when it comes to the majority of war movies since it makes for better dialogue and cinematography.
However with The Hurt Locker, too many people applauded it for it's "realism", that's when it bothers me. The only people saying how realistic it was were people who were never in those situations.
Also, the movie was f'ing boring as hell, I'm sorry.
Wow, good thing I am not the only person who thought The Hurt Locker was boring. It had the dumbest plot ever and the sniper scene was ######ed. Yeah, I am sure a random EOD squad member could jump on a Barret and snipe people from that distance in a few shots.
Can anyone confirm it's on a 9pm? Only reason I ask is because it says 9pm ET/MT, which means they would have to have two separate broadcasts for east and west, and I'm not sure if they actually do that or not.
Web site says 9MT so I would assume that's when it's on. Just set your PVR to record the series and never have to worry.
Thanks to this thread I re-watched Enemy at the Gates again...and thanks to Captain I was looking for his list of issues:
Lack of shrapnel - check
Whispering - check
Cycling the breech - check (while this is required on the sniper rifles, I don't think a sniper would do it so loudly.)
Still a good movie about one of the pivotal WWII battles. Amazing the sheer number of soldiers just thrown at the Germans. Battle of attrition for sure.
Web site says 9MT so I would assume that's when it's on. Just set your PVR to record the series and never have to worry.
Thanks to this thread I re-watched Enemy at the Gates again...and thanks to Captain I was looking for his list of issues:
Lack of shrapnel - check
Whispering - check
Cycling the breech - check (while this is required on the sniper rifles, I don't think a sniper would do it so loudly.)
Still a good movie about one of the pivotal WWII battles. Amazing the sheer number of soldiers just thrown at the Germans. Battle of attrition for sure.
I just wanna know how many chicks in the russian army look like rachel weisz
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Wow, good thing I am not the only person who thought The Hurt Locker was boring. It had the dumbest plot ever and the sniper scene was ######ed. Yeah, I am sure a random EOD squad member could jump on a Barret and snipe people from that distance in a few shots.
Nevermind the EOD guy shooting a moving target at that distance.
I get that, but what does it do exactly? Prepare the bullet for action? And why would you even need to do that, wouldnt they already be ready to go from the start?
I get that, but what does it do exactly? Prepare the bullet for action? And why would you even need to do that, wouldnt they already be ready to go from the start?
Typically working the action feeds a round from the magazine into the chamber, thus making the gun able to shoot. As CC said, anyone who has a gun ready would have that round "hot" and in the chamber long before there was a chance to use it.
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When you insert a magazine into a rifle for example, all the rounds are still contained within the magazine.
You pull the cocking handle back (or slide or whatever you pull back depending on what weapon you are using) you are pulling the bolt back and exposing the first round in the magazine. When you release the cocking handle, the bolt will push the bullet and cartridge into the chamber. Thus the term "chambering a round".
It basically takes one bullet from the magazine and places it in the chamber. In doing this also, the firing pin is engaged. When you pull the trigger, the firing pin releases and hits the striker on the bottom of the cartridge with releases gas which pushes the bullet down the barrel.
The gasses caused by this reaction are then forced back through the weapon to extract the spent cartridge on a semiautomatic/automatic weapon and allows the rifle to automatically chamber the next round in the magazine.
That is the difference between a bolt action type rifle and a semi-auto/auto rifle.
I hope that sorta makes sense.
Another big Hollywood thing is pulling the cocking handle after inserting each magazine. This is not necessary. Once a magazine is emptied, the bolt stays in the open position. You insert the next magazine, and press (or smash as your instructor might say) the bolt release/catch, which will chamber the top round.
The only time you should ever "" your rifle is at the very beginning before you enter into combat. There is no need to do so again during a firefight unless you have a stoppage, then stoppage drills take over, which will include pulling the cocking handle on a C7 (M16) type weapon.
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Sorry if this is fata. HBO is showing the complete Band of Brothers series this weekend. 5 episodes on Saturday, and 5 on Sunday. I completely cleared my PVR out so I can record the whole thing.
