LOST sixth and final season

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by DOK

Then again, maybe the smoke monster is right, maybe there really is nothing to protect and Jacob is just recruiting people for some weirdo reason (cult-ish maybe). The monster did say that he was going to look for Jacob now, so I'm guessing that's now Syaid, as he just came back to "life". Miles certainly heard him say something right before his death though, by the look on his face.

I figured this thread would be jumping too after the shows, but guess not! Will wait and see some more I suppose. Now we have to wonder who that new kid is with the rules, or maybe that's Jacob?

If Sayid is Jacob, why are the Others, who fear smokey and follow Jacob, wanting to kill Sayid?

[HPLovecraft]

Smokey is definitely lying, or doesn't value the same things that Jacob does, when he says there is nothing to protect on the island. I just cannot see the writers suddenly revealing the entire island to be pointless considering the way they've built up this vast mystery surrounding the island for every season before this. It would be a giant kick in the balls to viewers.

Not to mention the island HAS to be special. It cures cancer, can make people walk again, can travel through time, has a giant pocket of mysterious energy within it, and houses two supreme, god-like beings on it. And no one can find it.

There is definitely a reason behind protecting the island, and if it's revealed that there isn't, holy shat will I be pissed.

And for the record, I have a theory the little blonde boy is a manifestation of the island itself, the one power Jacob and Smokey answer to.

[HPLovecraft]

I will add in a separate post that I don't believe Sayid has somehow been possessed by Jacob. He has the "sickness" that Rousseau talked about way back in the early seasons, the illness that her mates came down with that forced her to kill them. The same "sickness" that Claire came down with after she died at some point and wandered off into the jungle. I dunno when she might have died, as it will likely be revealed later, but possibly when the house collapsed on her when the military guys attacked Dharma-ville. This is the reason why I believe she was hanging out in the cabin with Christian. Christian, of course, isn't really Christian, but his body infected by the "sickness," which is why they only ever found his coffin, and never the actual man himself.

This is the reason Dogen (the Japanese leader of the Temple Others) stated that Sayid has a darkness growing in him. Like the other people who have come down with the sickness, they seemingly die, but then come back to life, appearing normal at first, but begin to show symptoms of not being themselves. They are meant to protect the island, and I think pretty soon Sayid will be showing the symptoms, too. The "poison" Dogen gave to Jack to give to Sayid was to kill the thing inside him.

Also, the Others always buried or cremated their dead, specifically. This was to make sure the dead body couldn't be infected with this "sickness". Burying the dead "deep," as they said, seems to be the only way, other than cremation, to stop the infection from happening.

Whether this is caused by Smokey or not remains to be seen. Either way, I think Sayid will be going rambo soon. Just my idea on the whole mess.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Smokey is definitely lying, or doesn't value the same things that Jacob does, when he says there is nothing to protect on the island. I just cannot see the writers suddenly revealing the entire island to be pointless considering the way they've built up this vast mystery surrounding the island for every season before this. It would be a giant kick in the balls to viewers.

Not to mention the island HAS to be special. It cures cancer, can make people walk again, can travel through time, has a giant pocket of mysterious energy within it, and houses two supreme, god-like beings on it. And no one can find it.

There is definitely a reason behind protecting the island, and if it's revealed that there isn't, holy shat will I be pissed.

And for the record, I have a theory the little blonde boy is a manifestation of the island itself, the one power Jacob and Smokey answer to.

Yeah, the introduction of the kid and Smokey's apparent fear / something of him has to play into it. The Others have been sort of explained, but remember early on in the series the Others would move without being heard. Then there's the whole whispers / voices before something crazy happens, I think the kid is a part of that group. The "other" Others if you will. IMO there may be some group behind the scenes still that has yet to be revealed.

[Gozer]

nm, asked and answered.

[DOK]

Lots of good thoughts HP. I see what you mean about "the darkness". I'm wondering about the rules, who set them, or how they figured them out and what they mean. I go back to the ol' Adam and Eve not eating the apple rule, maybe this is all contrived from the bible.

I just can't imagine after all this time, Jacob is actually dead. Maybe he was a red herring this whole time like Ben was. He appeared to be in control and in the know, but he really didn't know too much. Maybe Jacob was the boss there until mr. monster got him finally. I'm hoping he comes back somehow, but again, with the burning of his body, seems unlikely.

[Flames0910]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Yeah, the introduction of the kid and Smokey's apparent fear / something of him has to play into it. The Others have been sort of explained, but remember early on in the series the Others would move without being heard. Then there's the whole whispers / voices before something crazy happens, I think the kid is a part of that group. The "other" Others if you will. IMO there may be some group behind the scenes still that has yet to be revealed.

Remember all the children being kidnapped from the other plane group with tough-but-hot whatsherface from Avatar/Need for Speed?
Did that get explained as Ben's group or no? Even if they were, why were they capturing children? Or was it just to assimilate them into their society

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Flames0910

Remember all the children being kidnapped from the other plane group with tough-but-hot whatsherface from Avatar/Need for Speed?
Did that get explained as Ben's group or no? Even if they were, why were they capturing children? Or was it just to assimilate them into their society

Last we saw the kids was at the temple giving food to Jack, Kate, etc. Don't know much more than that though.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Emma

[Flame Of Liberty]

Another episode and another snooze fest... Anyone else worried the ending of the show may not be as awesome as we thought?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Another episode and another snooze fest... Anyone else worried the ending of the show may not be as awesome as we thought?

For two seasons now.

[sa226]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Another episode and another snooze fest... Anyone else worried the ending of the show may not be as awesome as we thought?

I thought this latest one was a bit better focusing on Jack and his "fate" but there seems to be like 15 different story lines with Characters trekking off, dying, showing up.....like how random was Jack and Hurly just running into Kate, it has been kind of weird.

I think the shows biggest mistake has been the huge breaks in between seasons, it has been so long since the last season, any other show and it would fall off the face of the earth, but Lost has this cult following that keeps it going.

In the earlier seasons I was addicted to the show, but woth the long breaks I can never remember what the hell went on. I'm not sure if the shows are any less captivating as before, I just think I don't care as much as I did before.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by sa226

I thought this latest one was a bit better focusing on Jack and his "fate" but there seems to be like 15 different story lines with Characters trekking off, dying, showing up.....like how random was Jack and Hurly just running into Kate, it has been kind of weird.

I think the shows biggest mistake has been the huge breaks in between seasons, it has been so long since the last season, any other show and it would fall off the face of the earth, but Lost has this cult following that keeps it going.

In the earlier seasons I was addicted to the show, but woth the long breaks I can never remember what the hell went on. I'm not sure if the shows are any less captivating as before, I just think I don't care as much as I did before.

They're not on a break. It takes a LONG time to put together a season so it's either 6 episode spurts (which everyone complained about) or a whole season's worth of episodes with a little longer in between.

I remember the producers saying that for the season 4 finale, they were still editing on the day it was supposed to air and ABC didn't receive the episode until a few hours before it went on.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by sa226

I thought this latest one was a bit better focusing on Jack and his "fate" but there seems to be like 15 different story lines with Characters trekking off, dying, showing up.....like how random was Jack and Hurly just running into Kate, it has been kind of weird.

I think the shows biggest mistake has been the huge breaks in between seasons, it has been so long since the last season, any other show and it would fall off the face of the earth, but Lost has this cult following that keeps it going.

In the earlier seasons I was addicted to the show, but woth the long breaks I can never remember what the hell went on. I'm not sure if the shows are any less captivating as before, I just think I don't care as much as I did before.

These long breaks don't help, that's for sure. Many people stop watching the show simply because they forget what's happened on the show 4-5 years ago. I think without lostpedia, the show is borderline unwatchable.

I mean last episode, they found Shannon's inhaler. Now her story might be completely done so it doesn't matter, but raise your hand if you remembered more about Shannon than she was Boone's stepsister, fell in love with Sayid and got killed (if you remember by who you get a bonus point). I remembered that, but after that...who recalls what was her back-story, did she say anything important in her flash back?

Without checking her lostpedia page, I simply wouldn't remember stuff like she kept seeing Walt's images. (BTW is his story line done too?) or heck even her last name, when it was shown on the lighthouse protractor (another bonus point for those who remembered her last name).

[Wookie]

Something weird about the side flashes - they don't really make sense. Jacks appendix?
Asian guy at piano place

lots of things... just can't remember

[DOK]

I was "lucky enough" to watch all the seasons in the last few months. Totally agree with the sucking of the time between seasons. We'd watch three episodes at a time, it really pulls the whole thing together.

I feel like now, we're being held steady and waiting for a slow calm summary of the show. Like the road has been so rocky and crazy this whole time, and all of a sudden the ride is almost over, and slowly coming to a stop with a nice bow on top. I'm hoping that it will all come together in a huge aha moment. Or it will just be really cool, but who knows. I'm not disappointed, more just still wondering what's up.

[CaptainCrunch]

Yeah the last scene will be Jack and Hurley and probably on the beach, they see a map fluttering in the wind. Jack opens it and carefully spreads it out on a rock, Hurley and Ben scratch their head and Jack suddenly says.

"Holy sh%t boys, I think we're . . . "

fade to black

[HPLovecraft]

The only thing I dislike, up to this point, this season, is the alternate timeline/reality. I am sure that it means something, and it's going to culminate somehow into something great, but at this point it seems like boring filler. At first, I think, oh, neat, so this is how their lives would be if they didn't crash on the island... Then, I think what do I care? For 5 seasons I've followed their lives ON the island. I want to know what happens to their REAL selves, the ones I've invested so much time in, not these gimmicky alternate-selves.

I just hope it all has a point and it's not the creators showing us what happens at the end when they do get off the island or something, like fitting two seasons into one type of thing. Desmond better be the key to connecting it all.

I also miss John Locke. The creators were right when they said he was the heart of the show. There is a reason all of his episodes are the best ones.

[DOK]

I don't think the side flashes are about them IF they didn't crash, it's more than that. They keep running into each other and having weird moments, and the appendix thing. Jack couldn't remember, as if he knew it wasn't what he thought, but wasn't totally clear.

I think Julliet saying, "it worked" to Miles, means more than people are giving it credit for. Perhaps it did actually work, and they are off the island, and the memories are just goofed up along with time. Somehow it will all meld together, who knows?

[ResAlien]

IIRC the creators have said the two timelines will converge. That being said this week's episode was "meh" for me. Nothing mind blowing, nothing terrible. Of course, I always love Hurley. It really seems they've made Hurley the voice of the fans as far as his random comments etc.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by DOK

I don't think the side flashes are about them IF they didn't crash, it's more than that. They keep running into each other and having weird moments, and the appendix thing. Jack couldn't remember, as if he knew it wasn't what he thought, but wasn't totally clear.

I think Julliet saying, "it worked" to Miles, means more than people are giving it credit for. Perhaps it did actually work, and they are off the island, and the memories are just goofed up along with time. Somehow it will all meld together, who knows?

Time isn't messed up any more though...

That's the thing. I really hope it's not just them OFF the island, and the parts right now ON the island aren't just leading up to the end of the show when they somehow do leave the island, and the "sideway" flashes are just telling their stories once they leave. That would be almost the exact same as season 4, with us not knowing the flashes were of them off the island (not flashbacks) until the very end.

I love Lost, but the alternate timeline flashes or whatever they are are bothersome to me up to this point... They're kind of boring compared to what's going on on the island. Kate running away from the marshal? How many times can she do that? I did enjoy the Locke one, but that's because Locke's the best and makes everything good. And we hadn't seen the real Locke in a long while.