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Old 03-29-2010, 08:04 PM   #101
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I think why not? Canucks fans make up a large poster base here and some of us are quality posters. Might aswell give us a small voice that'd be able to help keep the peace.
Where does it end though? Do we then have an Oiler mod?

I like the idea of giving fans of other teams a voice though. It's just a slippery slope. As I said - mixed feelings on it.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:05 PM   #102
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meh... the whole thing about being a mod is that the person should be judicious and objective. What team they cheer for shouldn't factor in to how they moderate, so it shouldn't factor in to who becomes a mod. Pick the mods based on their qualities. Quota systems generally don't help anything.
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Where does it end though? Do we then have an Oiler mod?

I like the idea of giving fans of other teams a voice though. It's just a slippery slope. As I said - mixed feelings on it.
I don't think there has been an Oiler troll, nor will there be for the forseeable future.

A Canucks fan saying "Talk hockey or take off." To the many Canuck trolls would be effective, no? It may even make some of the trolls think twice. "That place can't be that bad, they have a Canuck mod."
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A Canucks fan saying "Talk hockey or take off." To the many Canuck trolls would be effective, no? It may even make some of the trolls think twice. "That place can't be that bad, they have a Canuck mod."
That would be a terrible move. It would be a nice gesture, but utterly ridiculous. A large portion of CP patrons are radically pro-Flame/anti-Canuck and CP would become unbrowsable by principle to them if there were a Canuck fan moderator.

From an administrator's point of view, there's absolutely no sense in alienating a large mass of your home team's fanbase in order to appease a couple of well spoken fans of your home team's biggest rival.
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That would be a terrible move. It would be a nice gesture, but utterly ridiculous. A large portion of CP patrons are radically pro-Flame/anti-Canuck and CP would become unbrowsable by principle to them if there were a Canuck fan moderator.

From an administrator's point of view, there's absolutely no sense in alienating a large mass of your home team's fanbase in order to appease a couple of well spoken fans of your home team's biggest rival.

So? If this 'Canuck mod' wouldn't be trolling obviously. Therefore why would it matter if he/she was a solid mod what their opinion on a team was? How would that alienate the fanbase?
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:24 AM   #106
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I'd like to see a subforum for other Canadian teams before a 'nuck mod.
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That would be a terrible move. It would be a nice gesture, but utterly ridiculous. A large portion of CP patrons are radically pro-Flame/anti-Canuck and CP would become unbrowsable by principle to them if there were a Canuck fan moderator.
And if they leave, the forums becomes better no? No trolling from either side.
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And if they leave, the forums becomes better no? No trolling from either side.
I'd think CP would prefer to cater to Flames fans...
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I'd think CP would prefer to cater to Flames fans...
CP has too many Canucks fans to do that. If they wanna advertise as a good hockey board they need to look at changing it.
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I nominate MelBridgeman for Moderator, as he represents the majority views of the sizable Canuck-haters community on CalgaryPuck.
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I nominate MelBridgeman for Moderator, as he represents the majority views of the sizable Canuck-haters community on CalgaryPuck.

If a Canuck fan ever got the ability to ban, he'd be gone right away for inciting trolling.
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A Canuck MOD is a pretty dumb idea. This place has already changed too much, adding a Canuck mod is just ridiculous.
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A Canuck MOD is a pretty dumb idea. This place has already changed too much, adding a Canuck mod is just ridiculous.
So ridiculous it's visionary!
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A Canuck MOD is a pretty dumb idea. This place has already changed too much, adding a Canuck mod is just ridiculous.
I think you need to take a step back and think about it. Seriously. It'd make the trolling situation go away, and make the board better. I don't know why wouldn't want that.
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A Canuck MOD is a pretty dumb idea. This place has already changed too much, adding a Canuck mod is just ridiculous.
Granting a Vancouver Canucks fan a CalgaryPuck moderatorship is akin to Neville Chamberlain acquiescing to the Munich Agreement. Okay, you start by granting 'em the Sudentenland (Contests, Drafts, Trivia and Images), then before you know it, Off-Topic is infested with tree-huggin; salmon sniffers.

No Way!

Edmonton Oilers fans like Celebral and Seachd attempted a similar coup d'etat a few years ago in a thinly-guised attempt to suck CalgaryPuck members into the evil HF Axis. Thankfully their treachery was foiled.

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Old 03-31-2010, 07:30 AM   #116
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I think you need to take a step back and think about it. Seriously. It'd make the trolling situation go away, and make the board better. I don't know why wouldn't want that.
I think banning each and every Canucks fan has a higher likelihood of achieving the desired result.
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Granting a Vancouver Canucks fan a CalgaryPuck moderatorship is akin to Neville Chamberlain acquiescing to the Munich Agreement. Okay, you start by granting 'em the Sudentenland (Contests, Drafts, Trivia and Images), then before you know it, Off-Topic is infested with tree-huggin; salmon sniffers.

No Way!

Edmonton Oilers fans like Celebral and Seachd attempted a similar coup d'etat a few years ago in a thinly-guised attempt to suck CalgaryPuck members into the evil HF Axis. Thankfully their treachery was foiled.
At least we'll have 'Peace in our Time'.
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:04 AM   #118
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It's a shame that it is so difficult to have any kind of reasonable debate here about Flames rivals.

For example, any Canuck thread from 4 months ago and earlier was laced with 10 pages of one line pony jokes, and 7uongo rehashes. That is exactly the type of behaviour that encourages Vancouver fans to get their licks in when they get the chance, and it doesn't advance the quality of hockey talk on the boards in the slightest.

The problem is obviously a little bigger then simply trolling from opposing teams' fans.
^ this

obviously this is a flames message board; but i don't think that should mean that it should alienate fans of other teams. additionally, i think this board prides itself on intelligent and partial hockey talk. to me it seems like the core members with lots of posts and older join dates can be more objective in their posts. they aren't as inflammatory with their criticisms and such. (also i do realize that i am generalizing groups of people and that there are exceptions)

but unfortunately there are a lot of posters that post plain garbage. and that does encourage trolls from other teams to come mess with people.

obviously this all boils down in the end to what bingo wants. but IMO, this board is successful not because it is flames oriented, but because it does a relatively good job of talking hockey. i often get the snide remarks about why i am still around since the baby flames left QC, and what i tell people is because for the most part there is smart people that post here. if there is a trade that happens, i know i can come here for great analysis. unfortunately though, there are a lot of times that a lot of irrational immature posters are allowed a lot of leeway in canucks/oilers/red wings threads because 'its a flames board.' and i don't think that sort of double standard helps anyone. while you guys might all get a laugh out of 7uongo jokes, what do they really do to make the board better?
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I don't necessarily think a Canucks mod will help. I think it would help bring some much needed objectivity to the board though. I'm not saying mods shouldn't have opinions but I think the primary reason for mods is to maintain a neutral standpoint and moderate activity.

I think posts like the one above saying a Canucks mod would be dumb is the exact reason that a less totally anti-everyone-but-the-Flames viewpoint would be beneficial. A mod should be appointed because they are able to remain neutral and not let their personal viewpoints and opinions get in the way of being fair towards posters. I don't necessarily think a mod needs to be a great contributor but they need to be able to put their personal biases aside and let logic and reason dictate how they moderate the board.

Obviously this is my own opinion on what moderation should be on CP. This is a private site and if it is the perrogative of Bingo and the other mods to have a slanted view then that is their decision. That is not to say that I think the methods of moderation are crap or anything. I'm just saying that there are improvements that could be made to the moderation system.

That being said, if nothing changed I wouldn't really care. However, I thought it was worth letting you guys know what the ideal moderation is for me.

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Old 03-31-2010, 04:03 PM   #120
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It's impossible to remain completely objective though, no matter what I will always give more slack to a Flames fan posting nonsense than a Canuck or Oilers or any other fan.

A balance might be good, someone who can ban Flames fans when they need it without having the baggage of giving too much slack and being to soft.
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