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Old 07-21-2009, 03:09 PM   #101
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Forcing your body to repair muscle tissue that you screwed up during exercising(that is a good thing)....also burns more calories.

Which is why I lift weights. That is why EVERYONE should lift weights.
Could you emphasize more on this? Not sure I understand.

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So would you guys recommend having more for breakfast than for lunch and dinner etc?
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More muscle mass = higher metabolism = even more calories burnt
But, but, but, but......

You'll look like a steroid jockey!!

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Something like that, but everyone's body is different...
This... what works for one person, might not be the best for another... I found it was a bit of trial and error before I found a routine that balanced what I liked doing vs. what gave me results.

There is some GREAT advice on here, but do not take anything as gospel.

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So would you guys recommend having more for breakfast than for lunch and dinner etc?
yes/no, personally I like to have my biggest meal for post workout... however you need to have a decent meal in the AM to kickstart your metabolism.
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I don't understand why you would eat right after working out... doesn;t that kind of defy the logic? Don't you need the energy to work out before you do?
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after working out you have really hammered you body, and need lots of nutrients to build it back up. When you workout you breakdown muscle, you need food/shakes after to build it back up.
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So would you guys recommend having more for breakfast than for lunch and dinner etc?
Some people would, some people wouldn't.

My personal opinion is it really doesn't matter when you take in the calories but rather what type of foods you take in at a certain time of the day. It doesn't matter if you take in 200 at breakfast and 500 at dinner or 500 at breakfast and 200 at dinner because it all equals the same at the end of the day.

However I would have more carbs in the morning (or after workout) and work your way to more protein at night.

I m just on my way to play 9 holes but when I get back I will locate my old schedule that really worked for me.
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Could you emphasize more on this? Not sure I understand.
On the idea of repairing muscle tissue? Lifting weights, or doing any kind o of physical exercise actually causes muscle fiber damage. In other words, you tear it. And this microscopic damage needs to heal properly if you're going to gain any muscle.

Heal = repair.

In order to let them heal properly you need good nutrition and adequate rest. Some of the best advice I ever got was that muscle is built in the kitchen and in your bed. Sure, you still need to put the work in when you go the gym, but it won't help you much if you have a decent workout routine, but crap for nutrition.

So, if your body has to constantly repair muscle tissue, you will burn more calories than someone who just sits at a desk all day long and doesn't workout.

I realize that what I just said is a vague explanation, but I'm still learning about the science behind it as well.

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I don't understand why you would eat right after working out... doesn;t that kind of defy the logic? Don't you need the energy to work out before you do?
the 30 minutes after you excercise is your best window to replenish your tired muscles.
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The biggest trick I've found is to get into doing something you actually enjoy. Azure really likes lifting, some people really like running (for some reason) while I mostly like to go climbing. If it's something you actually want to do, you won't give up so easily. To be honest, I hate lifting weights but I'm starting up a routine (in addition to other activities) now to help me get to the next level in my climbing.

Also, someone mentioned something about supplements such as protein shakes. For the average person, you probably already take in more than enough protein to see results and I wouldn't touch supplements until you figure out your standard diet. After you get more accomplished it may be worthwhile looking into taking in a little extra protein as a means of recovery following a hard work out (I'm talking like 20-30 minutes immediately after a work out). It depends on what your goals are but personally I find that taking in a little bit of protein (~20-30 g) immediately after a work out makes my recovery time much quicker.
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This... what works for one person, might not be the best for another... I found it was a bit of trial and error before I found a routine that balanced what I liked doing vs. what gave me results.

There is some GREAT advice on here, but do not take anything as gospel.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.
And the only way to skin your own cat is to find out the best way that works for you.

All of this is trial and error.

The next guy isn't going to loss/gain weight like me and you will. So he has to figure out a routine that works for him.
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I don't understand why you would eat right after working out... doesn;t that kind of defy the logic? Don't you need the energy to work out before you do?
Ever seen the TSN commercial about chocolate milk? That was my idea first.



Anyways, after working out your body needs carbs/protein to start repairing the muscle tissue you just damaged.

There is some science behind the 30 min window that apparently exists RIGHT after you workout, but I don't really understand it.

I know it works though.
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To be honest, I hate lifting weights but I'm starting up a routine (in addition to other activities) now to help me get to the next level in my climbing.

You just need a gym with better looking women.

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Also, someone mentioned something about supplements such as protein shakes. For the average person, you probably already take in more than enough protein to see results and I wouldn't touch supplements until you figure out your standard diet.
From what I've read, if you want to put on muscle you need to take in at least 1 gram of protein per body weight per day. It's a lot harder to take in that much then what you might think.

I don't think protein powder is that big of a deal. And it's about the cheapest source of protein you can get.

I would avoid all that creatine and fat burning stuff though.

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Far as I'm concerned, you should worry about your diet first, and then add supplements to fill in all the holes.

Real food is better. We respond better to real protein than we do to protein from a shake.

But, I should also mention that most of us are never going to really see the difference it makes.
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just reading this thread, i burnt like 250 calories. great info in here, keep it up.
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You just need a gym with better looking women.
Nah, climbing women = hot.
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And the only way to skin your own cat is to find out the best way that works for you.

All of this is trial and error.

The next guy isn't going to loss/gain weight like me and you will. So he has to figure out a routine that works for him.
yup for sure.. took me a while to get it straight!
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Nah, climbing women = hot.
I would probably do just about anything to have access to a climbing wall.

You're lucky.
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I would probably do just about anything to have access to a climbing wall.

You're lucky.
would you climb to the top of a mountain?
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