Teen killed with Pickaxe in Queensland

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Slava

In all honesty this kid is going to get 15 years or so and be out in 10. He's 19...so he'll be missing arguably the best ten years of his life...a pretty stiff punishment when you consider this. I know that the family will suffer long after this, and I know that no sentence is ever adequate in some peoples minds. But at the same time, unless it can be shown that this was pre-meditated in any way or something similar then it was a moment of sheer stupidity by a teenager in some ways.

This is a heinous act, and I don't mean to undermine that fact.

He took another kids life, to me thats a argument for a major sentence. Its irrelevant if he was high on crack or weed or whatever, he's also an adult in front of the courts, one who is more then capable of making a decision.

As I've said on multiple occassions, justice has to have an equal measure of justice for the victims and thier family and rehabilitation for the criminal. I'm all for rehabing this kid as he serves 10 to 15 years in a maximum security prison.

But this is Canada, he'll serve 6 months with time served credit because some judge will forget the act, and feel sorry for a killer.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by AnthonyCook

I'm sorry to say that I knew the killer, not well though. From elementary untill high school (untill he got expelled, big shocker).

He was even on my soccer team at one point.

By the way, the rumor is that he was high on crack...

Maybe the victim sunk his battleship?

I know that game can get intense

Too soon?

[AC]

Originally Posted by fotze

Was he a wingnut?

Also, it is not suprising you are associated with the murderer due to that music you listen to.

I didn't know him during high school well at all, but apparently he was on a gang and got kicked out at one point. So enough said there.

Also, stereotypes are bad, mmkay?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by fotze

Was he a wingnut?

Also, it is not suprising you are associated with the murderer due to that music you listen to.

Perhaps the hookers and blow were not being distributed to his liking?

He wanted more blow and less hooker?

[Cube Inmate]

I think we should scrap the sentencing part of the "justice" system and just us an "American Idol" type show for convicted offenders. They can plead their case in front of a panel of prominent killers, who'll criticize them on their un-original choice of weapons. Then, the audience can call in to choose a sentence.

"A pick-axe to the head is very efficient, but you could have come up with a better excuse than 'you were high' when defending yourself."

To vote for a 5-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-FIVE
To vote for a 10-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-0TEN
To vote for a life sentence, dial 1-900-SCRW-YOU

During "sweeps week," they'd probably bring back the death penalty. Don't worry...I don't actually watch these shows...and won't, until they do actually bring in something interesting like corporal punishment for the losers.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

I think we should scrap the sentencing part of the "justice" system and just us an "American Idol" type show for convicted offenders. They can plead their case in front of a panel of prominent killers, who'll criticize them on their un-original choice of weapons. Then, the audience can call in to choose a sentence.

"A pick-axe to the head is very efficient, but you could have come up with a better excuse than 'you were high' when defending yourself."

To vote for a 5-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-FIVE
To vote for a 10-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-0TEN
To vote for a life sentence, dial 1-900-SCRW-YOU

During "sweeps week," they'd probably bring back the death penalty. Don't worry...I don't actually watch these shows...and won't, until they do actually bring in something interesting like corporal punishment for the losers.

I still think the Running Man or good ole Gladiator battle royale's are not too far from reality, especially in the US

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

I think we should scrap the sentencing part of the "justice" system and just us an "American Idol" type show for convicted offenders. They can plead their case in front of a panel of prominent killers, who'll criticize them on their un-original choice of weapons. Then, the audience can call in to choose a sentence.

"A pick-axe to the head is very efficient, but you could have come up with a better excuse than 'you were high' when defending yourself."

To vote for a 5-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-FIVE
To vote for a 10-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-0TEN
To vote for a life sentence, dial 1-900-SCRW-YOU

During "sweeps week," they'd probably bring back the death penalty. Don't worry...I don't actually watch these shows...and won't, until they do actually bring in something interesting like corporal punishment for the losers.

Now that is a reality show worth tuning in to!

[Got Miikka?]

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/...42528-sun.html

"He's scared to death, not surprisingly," Fay told Sun Media [regarding the murder suspect being put behind bars]

Awwww... am I supposed to feel sympathy for the plight of someone who - regardless of how many or how few drugs he was on at the time - thought it was appropriate to hit someone in the face with a pickaxe?

Take your lumps, kid. Maybe you'll think it through next time.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Cube Inmate

I think we should scrap the sentencing part of the "justice" system and just us an "American Idol" type show for convicted offenders. They can plead their case in front of a panel of prominent killers, who'll criticize them on their un-original choice of weapons. Then, the audience can call in to choose a sentence.

"A pick-axe to the head is very efficient, but you could have come up with a better excuse than 'you were high' when defending yourself."

To vote for a 5-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-FIVE
To vote for a 10-year sentence, dial 1-900-669-0TEN
To vote for a life sentence, dial 1-900-SCRW-YOU

During "sweeps week," they'd probably bring back the death penalty. Don't worry...I don't actually watch these shows...and won't, until they do actually bring in something interesting like corporal punishment for the losers.

I can guarantee that every person on that show would get the maximum sentence. People are the best arm chair judges. And if this board is any gauge on the rest of society, the typical punishment would be life in prison, a 3'x3' cell, no possibility of parole, forced daily sodomy, and each member of the victims family would get to kick them in the groin.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Burninator

I can guarantee that every person on that show would get the maximum sentence. People are the best arm chair judges. And if this board is any gauge on the rest of society, the typical punishment would be life in prison, a 3'x3' cell, no possibility of parole, forced daily sodomy, and each member of the victims family would get to kick them in the groin.

Well we can live without the sodomy, and I'm pretty sure that the victims family would be satisfied with the jail time and the assurance that thier sons killers off of the streets and getting punished for the worst act that you can do.

There has to be a punishment aspect to justice, especially in the case of what to me is a brutal criminal act.

Prison can't be just about short stints and rehabs, it has to be something that acts as a deterrant so that the convicted has no interest in going back.

To be honest I think Canadian prisons are too soft as it is. Don't give them T.V.s and pool tables, Sunday BBQ's. Give them books, and hard labor, and counciling, and lots of time to think about thier actions and its costs. You've committed a crime, your punishment shouldn't be similar to what you do at home.

[corporatejay]

"He's a young kid, 19-years- old, no criminal record," the lawyer said.

no criminal record in the last year or so is what he means (not saying he did as a young offender but possible)

picked a good crime to start with :@

[Azure]

Young kid...scared....already started to show sympathy.

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Yikes. I grew up in Deer Ridge. Queensland always had a couple of bad apples but it was mostly pretty minor. In any event, I still harbor the image of Queensland as sort of a nice area to live in that had more of a hardworking blue collar feel then the other surrounding neighbourhoods. According to my mum, she says she's noticed more police activity in the area since the murder, and figures maybe they're trying to remove a layer of filth from the area. Hopefully that's the case.

[Robbob]

At Sait on Monday just doing some school work when from a cubicle across a cell rang. I normally don't eaves drop on cell conversations but when the guy started yelling "that was Marko that did that!". From what I over heard I guess Marko had quite the temper. I also found it funny that the guy on the cell phone also knew the guys that killed some crack dealer a couple of months ago. Talk about a crazy circle of friends.

[Flames09]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Probably booze.

Actually he was on some other very illegal drugs.

Originally Posted by urban1

Im not making excuses for anyone or justifying this but I imagine a scenario somewhat like this: Ive heard different numbers for the amount of people in the garage but imagine 20 or 30 or 40 people squeezed into a garage. People start pushing, punches get thrown, maybe someone else picks up a bat or a stick and starts swinging. Someone else grabs for the nearest item that could be used as a weapon and picks up the axe and starts swinging. Clearly not a good idea but in the heat of the moment where people are fighting in a tight space and probably a lot of commotion, nobody probably is thinking straight.

If a suspect gets arrested, my guess is he will be charged with manslaughter and not murder. It would be one thing if this guy brought a pick axe with him and carried it around with the intent of using it as a weapon. But if a fight broke out in a garage where this thing was laying around, I can see it even being argued as self-defense. If Im a small guy and theres a group of guys threatening to assault me, is it reasonable force to swing around a pick axe? Our liberal courts might let this guy walk with time served if he sits in jail while awaiting trial.

Okay my family knows Matt and has known him for years now. I know people say this stuff after someones death but this I will tell you is very true. Matt was not a fighter at all infact the kid couldn't even fight, he was a hockey boy (CMHS hockey boys don't fight). In Central Memorial (my old highschool) there is a natural rivalry between the regular kids and the kids in the hockey program (that may have been one of the issues between the two groups). That night in the garage the house party was meant to be small but a large amount of people showed up, when the female host of the party asked them to leave they refused and confrontation started between the girl and the group of guys. Matt basically told them that they didn't want any trouble (I believe at this point the cops had been already called). The guy who picked up the pickaxe did it randomly, Matt was not trying to fight him, it wasn't self defense. The murderer has a pretty horrible reputation as is, and I can say this with confidence Matt was not on drugs he didn't even do drugs, clean kid. Anyways I feel horrible for his family as he had lost his mother not too long ago to a heart condition, and I hope the rest of his family will get through this, it's been a tough year for them.

[Boblobla]

Update:

Sentencing arguments were made today.

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

Arguments for sentencing were made in court Tuesday for 20-year-old Marko Miljevic.
Miljevic was convicted of second degree murder, in December 2007, in the death of 17-year-old Matthew Mckay.
McKay died after he was hit in the head with a pick axe at a garage party in Queensland in September 2007.
Miljevic admitted during the trial that he threw the axe that killed McKay, but that he wasn't aiming for him.
Miljevic also claimed that he thought the axe was a bat and that he threw it into the crowd of teens but he did not intend to hurt anyone.
Prosecutors argued that Marko Miljevic swung the axe with both hands, clearly intending to kill McKay.
The prosecution is asking that Miljevic be imprisoned for 10 - 12 years before being eligible for parole.

[Burninator]

Sounds like he is taking a page out of Tschetter's book of crappy excuses.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Sounds like he is taking a page out of Tschetter's book of crappy excuses.

I know, pretty brutal.

'Yeah I threw the axe BUT I thought it was a bat and I didn't mean to hurt anyone...'

[Madman]

Didn't intend to hurt anyone? Why didn't you say so earlier?

Our apologies....you are free to go.

[Jayems]

Has he been remanded for since the incident or been out on bail etc?