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View Poll Results: Should Calgary Butt Out by 2007?
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Yup
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Naw
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07-17-2006, 08:33 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Another response;
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Thank you for your email. Alderman Farrell will be voting in favour of
the smoking ban. We hope the majority of Council will support the
motion, and finally end the debate on the issue.
Lois Walsh
Executive Assistant to:
ALDERMAN DRUH FARRELL, WARD 7
CITY OF CALGARY
PH: 268-2475
FAX: 268-3823
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07-17-2006, 10:07 PM
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#102
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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That sucks. I bet it gets delayed again and again again. that is the City's MO. Delay, Delay and then send it back to a committee. 
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07-18-2006, 11:19 AM
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#103
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Looks like the deciding vote may go to Larocque to have this amendment passed or not.
http://www.aldermandiane.ca/document...d.Larocque.pdf
My guess is she bends to the pressure of the Nays and the resturant and pub community rather than listening to the vast majority of Calgarians saying what we want and we'll have to wait until 2008.
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07-18-2006, 11:33 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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She never did respond back to me.
If I had known she was the swing vote, I would have forwarded a modified version of Ace's comments to her. (BTW, nice job on that Ace)
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07-18-2006, 11:35 AM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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She hasn't responded to me either.
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07-18-2006, 11:41 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by calculoso
She hasn't responded to me either.
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The civic minded side of me thinks our emails are what has made her at least reconsider the issue.
The jaded side of me thinks if she is the swing vote and a municiple election is on the horizon, she has to at least look like she is listening to her constituents; and if a few campain contributions from the Bar Assoc happen to sway her vote, so much the better.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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07-18-2006, 01:02 PM
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#107
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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She never responed to me either.
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07-18-2006, 02:53 PM
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#108
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Crash and Bang Winger
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If the big sticking point is breaking promises to businesses that made capital investments, then why not put in a grandfather clause for those places that sunk money into seperate ventalation as a result of the previous bylaw?
I say give 'em a one year extension till the original smoke-free date. As far as I can tell they are in the vast minority of the remaining establisments that allow smoking. At least they offer non-smoking areas which is more than can be said for a lot of places.
Last edited by trew; 07-18-2006 at 02:58 PM.
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07-18-2006, 06:43 PM
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#109
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First Line Centre
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Anyone know how the vote went?
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07-18-2006, 06:50 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Originally Posted by atb112
Anyone know how the vote went?
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Yah... I'd like to know if the vote went well...
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07-18-2006, 07:04 PM
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#111
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I was listening to CHQR770 most of the day and heard lots about Albertas Health Minister, Iris Evans and how she was urging Calgarys aldermen to usher in the amendment to the smoking by-law (which made me laugh, cuz shouldn't she have been on top of that long ago?) but nothing about how the vote went. I thought it was supposed to happen shortly after noonish and that we'd have seen the results on the news at 6pm, but it just finished and I didn't see any reports about it.
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07-18-2006, 09:31 PM
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#112
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
She never did respond back to me.
If I had known she was the swing vote, I would have forwarded a modified version of Ace's comments to her. (BTW, nice job on that Ace)
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 -- Big Surprise! - no response from Lowe on that one.
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07-18-2006, 10:30 PM
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#113
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Powerplay Quarterback
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http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/...9/1691327.html
Guess the tactic is to just delay the vote on the amendment until Jan, 2008 or until they finally get enough votes to pass it, whichever comes first.
Last edited by PowerPlayoffs06; 07-18-2006 at 10:34 PM.
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07-18-2006, 10:43 PM
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#114
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First Line Centre
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I wonder how effective it would be to forward the alderman's emails + a link to determine what ward you are in, around the Calgary corporate world. Those forwarded type emails make it through every major corporate office in a day.
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07-18-2006, 11:03 PM
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#115
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PowerPlayoffs06
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But a pay raise for themselves was voted in right away 
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07-18-2006, 11:28 PM
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#116
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Originally Posted by hulkrogan
Notice how we have 28 votes saying we should wait until 2008, yet not one post providing some insight as to why?
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simple reason why - people here have already made their decision, and it is pointless even to try to debate any opposing view....
there are plenty of other acts that have effects on health that the government does not legislate against, but once the slippery slope has been breached, prepare for greater restrictions on civil liberties.
I don't know why people can't open a "smoking only" bar? That way, the people working/drinking there are doing so from their own free will...
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07-18-2006, 11:28 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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This is the typical MO for the City of Calgary. Our company sent in a proposal for a project two years ago, and they're finally getting around to reviewing them!!
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07-18-2006, 11:52 PM
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#118
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by Mccree
But a pay raise for themselves was voted in right away |
That motion was a very positive move though as the pay raise was more than off set by the fact that they will now be taxed on their full salaries. I have no problem with what they did there.
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07-19-2006, 07:40 AM
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#119
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Lifetime Suspension
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Calgary Herald today said that the vote will delayed until Monday. And Mayor Bronconier expressed his annoyance at having this vote in the first place... I guess the debate is getting in the way of their usual business... you know, of rubber stamping development proposals.
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07-19-2006, 07:47 AM
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#120
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
there are plenty of other acts that have effects on health that the government does not legislate against, but once the slippery slope has been breached, prepare for greater restrictions on civil liberties.
I don't know why people can't open a "smoking only" bar? That way, the people working/drinking there are doing so from their own free will...
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The thing is there isn't any other health risk I can think of that has such a second hand effect on others.
As for the smoking only bar, there's a number of issues. First is the cumulative effect on employees. Even if they are a smoker, odds are very few people chain smoke 8 hours per day 5 days a week. Then what happens if an employee decided they want to quit smoking? Now they have to find another job.
The mayor said he didn't want to send the message that when city hall makes a decision, it can be changed on a whim. Since the date was set we have received a lot more info on the effect of second hand smoke, and moving the date up isn't backtracking, but instead is acting in the interests of public health.
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