Bahl and Kuznestov are top 4 LD for many years IMO. Bahl is going to be a Regher with maybe a tad more offence and a few less devastating hits. Kuz will be a minute eater. Both have more offence than they've shown IMO, and will be good at "3th assists" by making great first passes. And they are both young enough to be part of the future.
it was primarily a comment on the LHDs in the system, outside of the NHL guys. Right now, there's not a whole lot to be really excited about (though I'm still a believer in Morin and Wiebe could be a decent pickup).
it was primarily a comment on the LHDs in the system, outside of the NHL guys. Right now, there's not a whole lot to be really excited about (though I'm still a believer in Morin and Wiebe could be a decent pickup).
Bahl is a legit top 4 and Kuz is a prototypical 3rd pair guy that championship teams have (big, strong, rangy and mobile). They definitely could use. A legit top pairing all around guy for the left side.
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There's atucally a pretty good unsigned LD in the KHL right now. Machulin, 23, is 6'4" 200lbs, and he's absolutely nasty to play against. He defends well, he's physical, and is no stranger to dropping the gloves. He's relatively mobile, and has a good hard shot. His biggest downside is that he's a bit prone to making unforced errors when he has the puck on his stick.
I think he's a bottom pairing D for sure, but there's top 4 potential there, especially if his game becomes less of a rollercoaster with the puck on his stick.
Sounds like a fun target.
I've never heard of him, is there buzz about him making the jump over? 24 by the time camp starts next season, would think he'd be getting closer to now or never if he does.
I've never heard of him, is there buzz about him making the jump over? 24 by the time camp starts next season, would think he'd be getting closer to now or never if he does.
I didn't see any rumors regarding Machulin and moving to the NHL, but his contract with Sochi is up at the end of the season, and I could see someone taking a flyer on him. I'm not sure if there's a spot on the Flames next year, unless they end up moving on from both Hanley and Maatta.
I didn't see any rumors regarding Machulin and moving to the NHL, but his contract with Sochi is up at the end of the season, and I could see someone taking a flyer on him. I'm not sure if there's a spot on the Flames next year, unless they end up moving on from both Hanley and Maatta.
If there isn't a spot on the Flames for him, he's probably not an NHL player. Maatta was just a perma scratch on Utah and Hanley was a waiver wire pick up.
If there isn't a spot on the Flames for him, he's probably not an NHL player. Maatta was just a perma scratch on Utah and Hanley was a waiver wire pick up.
You could be right, but I think that Huska likes pairing rookies with veterans, and having guys like Maatta and Hanley as the responsible partner for Parekh or Brzustewicz.
When Whitecloud was hurt Maatta got to play on the top pairing with Bahl. Hanley was a top 4 fixture last year with Weegar, and many here, myself included thought he had some value at the TD. So I think it's a bit more complicated than how you outlined it. Machulin would likely be starting in the AHL with the Flames, while another team might give him a spot outright.
It has been a long time since the Lightning hit on a prospect at the draft, and their two best prospects at the moment were selected by other NHL teams.
Still, they have a few relevant prospects among their 11 ranked here and a few others who are intriguing, even if it’s a relatively weak pool.
I'm still hopeful we can grab one of those Tier 1 prospects from them at the TDL next year, if not sooner. 50% Coleman should at least be a fair swap 1 for 1.
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I'm still hopeful we can grab one of those Tier 1 prospects from them at the TDL next year, if not sooner. 50% Coleman should at least be a fair swap 1 for 1.
Coleman being valued at a 1st is no longer a reality in my opinion. Needed to be 50% retained for 2 runs. If the Flames attach picks then maybe? But I really don’t see Geekie being a guy they would move at all for a Coleman lead package
Coleman being valued at a 1st is no longer a reality in my opinion. Needed to be 50% retained for 2 runs. If the Flames attach picks then maybe? But I really don’t see Geekie being a guy they would move at all for a Coleman lead package
Seems like 50% retained for 2 runs wasn't even going to get a 1st.
But each TDL is a bit different so you never know.
Seems like 50% retained for 2 runs wasn't even going to get a 1st.
But each TDL is a bit different so you never know.
Curious if we ever get the full story on this. Was a deal like that an option and the Flames balked because it would kill a potential Kadri deal? Or was it never on the table as such.
Imagine they had to consider two packages of returns:
1) Kadri retained return at the 2026 deadline and Coleman return at some point in 2027.
2) Coleman retained return at 2026 deadline and Kadri return at some point in 2027.
Imagine they suspect that they might get less next year for Coleman individually, but cumulatively would be better value for both Coleman and Kadri over 2 trades.
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Curious if we ever get the full story on this. Was a deal like that an option and the Flames balked because it would kill a potential Kadri deal? Or was it never on the table as such.
Imagine they had to consider two packages of returns:
1) Kadri retained return at the 2026 deadline and Coleman return at some point in 2027.
2) Coleman retained return at 2026 deadline and Kadri return at some point in 2027.
Imagine they suspect that they might get less next year for Coleman individually, but cumulatively would be better value for both Coleman and Kadri over 2 trades.
Since the 2027 returns are completely unknown, and Kadri was the riskier player going forward for a number of reasons, Kadri had to be moved at the 2026 trade deadline.
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Since the 2027 returns are completely unknown, and Kadri was the riskier player going forward for a number of reasons, Kadri had to be moved at the 2026 trade deadline.
That's what I mean, they probably have faith that a 2027 Coleman would get a better return than a 2027 Kadri would have. Which would be a good bet considering age, contract, current demand, etc.
Curious if we ever get the full story on this. Was a deal like that an option and the Flames balked because it would kill a potential Kadri deal? Or was it never on the table as such.
Imagine they had to consider two packages of returns:
1) Kadri retained return at the 2026 deadline and Coleman return at some point in 2027.
2) Coleman retained return at 2026 deadline and Kadri return at some point in 2027.
Imagine they suspect that they might get less next year for Coleman individually, but cumulatively would be better value for both Coleman and Kadri over 2 trades.
I think Kadri return is about as good as you are going to get so you lock that one in and worry about Coleman later. If Coleman's value goes down you are losing a lot less than if Kadri's value goes down.
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That's what I mean, they probably have faith that a 2027 Coleman would get a better return than a 2027 Kadri would have. Which would be a good bet considering age, contract, current demand, etc.
Curious if we ever get the full story on this. Was a deal like that an option and the Flames balked because it would kill a potential Kadri deal? Or was it never on the table as such.
Imagine they had to consider two packages of returns:
1) Kadri retained return at the 2026 deadline and Coleman return at some point in 2027.
2) Coleman retained return at 2026 deadline and Kadri return at some point in 2027.
Imagine they suspect that they might get less next year for Coleman individually, but cumulatively would be better value for both Coleman and Kadri over 2 trades.
I'm going off memory a bit here but it seemed like it was rumored/reported that the best offers WITH retention were a 2nd, or something like a 3rd without retention.
So not worth doing, including using up that retention slot you needed for Kadri.
If a 2nd is the best you can do, then I think you can get that next year.
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I'm going off memory a bit here but it seemed like it was rumored/reported that the best offers WITH retention were a 2nd, or something like a 3rd without retention.
So not worth doing, including using up that retention slot you needed for Kadri.
If a 2nd is the best you can do, then I think you can get that next year.
That's interesting, I don't remember reading any rumors regarding what was actually offered. I only remember that Conroy wanted someone to "knock his socks off to move Blake". That obviously has yet to happen.
Personally I like the idea of trading Coleman + 2nd for a prospect like Geekie, but at the same time, I can see why Tampa would want to hold onto their A prospects unless they're big game hunting.
I keep coming back to the idea of potentially trading Frost in the offseason if he could get you a 1st. Or maybe include him in a swap for someone like Kent Johnson, or Cole Sillinger that got pushed down the depth chart in an up and coming team like Columbus.
I think Kadri return is about as good as you are going to get so you lock that one in and worry about Coleman later. If Coleman's value goes down you are losing a lot less than if Kadri's value goes down.
Totally agree, and I think this was reflected in Conroy's post deadline comments when he said Coleman wanted to be in Calgary.
It's not really that he wants to be in Calgary more than make a push for a cup, but he's a soldier and will keep giving it his all in Calgary. Kadri would have pouted and dropped his effort and offseason trade value. There were some suggestions already that he and his agent were super pissed he wasn't moved by the trade deadline morning.
They needed to move Kadri. Coleman they can move in the offseason or next year's deadline.
Totally agree, and I think this was reflected in Conroy's post deadline comments when he said Coleman wanted to be in Calgary.
It's not really that he wants to be in Calgary more than make a push for a cup, but he's a soldier and will keep giving it his all in Calgary. Kadri would have pouted and dropped his effort and offseason trade value. There were some suggestions already that he and his agent were super pissed he wasn't moved by the trade deadline morning.
They needed to move Kadri. Coleman they can move in the offseason or next year's deadline.
There is nothing about Kadri and how he handled himself as a Flame that suggests he would have been unprofessional and pout had he not been moved.
Every report from those around him suggest that he was a great teammate and a great Flame. There is no reason he wouldn't have continued to be so, even if deep down, he would rather have had another shot at a cup.
The conclusion they probably came to is that the value loss from 2026 Kadri to 2027 Kadri would be greater than the value loss from 2026 Coleman to 2027 Coleman.
Meaning that, because of retention spots, if they had to pick one to deal with retention and one to hold onto, then the overall return for both of those assets would be greater if they held onto Coleman not Kadri.
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