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Old 11-28-2025, 02:29 PM   #101
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God damn it...I was hoping they'd fire Maloney into the sun...I guess they need two more years for the cost of that technology to become more feasible.
Naw, ME is just waiting for the City to pay for most of the cost of rocket fuel.
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Old 11-28-2025, 02:30 PM   #102
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Old 11-28-2025, 02:32 PM   #103
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I never realized before that both Nonis and Pascal are VPs of Hockey Ops. So Craig's two "Assistant GMs" actually outrank him organizationally? Or even if the GM is also considered a VP of Hockey Ops, then at the very least, that puts Craig's assistants at an equal level with him?

So Craig and his two assistants all each report directly to Don, instead of the AGMs reporting to the GM and the GM reporting to the PoHO. That's even less autonomy than I thought Craig had in the first place.
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Old 11-28-2025, 02:33 PM   #104
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I never realized before that both Nonis and Pascal are VPs of Hockey Ops. So Craig's two "Assistant GMs" actually outrank him organizationally? Or even if the GM is also considered a VP of Hockey Ops, then at the very least, that puts Craig's assistants at an equal level with him?

So Craig and his two assistants all each report directly to Don, instead of the AGMs reporting to the GM and the GM reporting to the PoHO. That's even less autonomy than I thought Craig had in the first place.
good catch, I had assumed before Craig was also a VP
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That and the other quotes from Conroy in that article should put the bulk of the hand wringing to bed and satiate everyone asking the Flames to say exactly that.
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I never realized before that both Nonis and Pascal are VPs of Hockey Ops. So Craig's two "Assistant GMs" actually outrank him organizationally? Or even if the GM is also considered a VP of Hockey Ops, then at the very least, that puts Craig's assistants at an equal level with him?

So Craig and his two assistants all each report directly to Don, instead of the AGMs reporting to the GM and the GM reporting to the PoHO. That's even less autonomy than I thought Craig had in the first place.
No.

In the Flames' hierarchy the GM outranks VPs, for some reason. It was the same with Treliving. He was Maloney's boss even though Maloney was VP of HO.
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Old 11-28-2025, 02:36 PM   #107
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No.

In the Flames' hierarchy the GM outranks VPs, for some reason. It was the same with Treliving. He was Maloney's boss even though Maloney was VP of HO.
This should be obvious enough since Pascall and Nonis are also AGMs.
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Old 11-28-2025, 02:39 PM   #108
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This should be obvious enough since Pascall and Nonis are also AGMs.
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That and the other quotes from Conroy in that article should put the bulk of the hand wringing to bed and satiate everyone asking the Flames to say exactly that.
Honestly those were the quotes this fanbase was looking for.
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Edwards doesn’t seem to run his other businesses as terribly as he does the Flames. Clearly he’s a man that knows business but he’s just so detached from the common person and sports fans in particular. He kind of has some traits in common with Elon Musk. As with Elon, he thinks he knows what’s best for an audience that he cannot relate with or understand. It wasn’t long ago he was trotting out Bean to alienate fans, now it’s Maloney. He’s simply clueless.
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Same.

Which is why I think that if you waited this long, you might as well have waited until after that was done.
To me the litmus test is Kadri. You can say you need a centre or want to insulate the kids or whatever, but honestly - this season or next doesn't matter. You are basically looking towards 27-28 and what is best for that team when you may no longer suck (although probably will still suck).

If Coranato, Zary and whichever other young guys they call up can't recover from getting beaten down this year, I highly doubt they'd be a piece of the next good Flames team because Kadri is around for a few months.
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Old 11-28-2025, 02:46 PM   #111
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That and the other quotes from Conroy in that article should put the bulk of the hand wringing to bed and satiate everyone asking the Flames to say exactly that.
Another example of the meddling ownership forcing a prolonged rebuild on the fan base. Have to wonder if Craig has any autonomy.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Statement from President Donald J. Trump
On the Terrible Situation with the Calgary Flames Hockey Organization

Calgary, Alberta — A once-great hockey franchise, the CALGARY FLAMES, has fallen on very, very hard times — and the reason is simple: incompetent leadership from “Dumb Dumb” Don Maloney and “Middle Man” Murray Edwards. Everyone is saying it.

Today, we learned that the team has extended the POHO — a move that can only be described as a COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE OF MANAGEMENT. Don Maloney, who couldn’t win in Arizona (nobody could!), is now getting rewarded for years of mediocrity in Calgary. He’s been failing longer than the Saddledome roof has been leaking!

Meanwhile, Murray “Middle Man” Edwards — who has personally overseen more wasted seasons than anyone in hockey history — continues to hide in boardrooms, pretending to know what a “winning” is. He refuses to rebuild, refuses to win. The man treats playoff rounds like tax deductions — he hasn’t claimed one in years!

President Trump has long said: Hire the right people and let them do tremendous things. Craig Conroy is that person. A strong, good-looking hockey man — people respect him, players love him, fans adore him. He deserves full control to rebuild through the BIG, BEAUTIFUL DRAFT — not to be handcuffed by Dumb Dumb Don’s losing strategies.

It’s time for the Flames to stop the endless cycle of excuses and bring back what fans truly deserve — WINNING. The people of Calgary have been loyal for far too long. They deserve a team that plays hard, scores often, and doesn’t fold like a cheap tent in November.

MAKE THE FLAMES GREAT AGAIN!


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Old 11-28-2025, 02:54 PM   #116
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This is fine. Have a feeling Maloney is part of a greater succession plan and he seems to have hired well. We’ve had identified talent and at this point will be sellers. Just going to breathe.
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Selfishly, I like Nonis because it means that Dreger will keep getting reliable scoops regarding the Flames.

Is this even good for the team? No, but it's entertaining.
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Old 11-28-2025, 03:13 PM   #118
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Personally, I would have announced Craig, and then his support group separately. Make it clear who’s the boss. I mean… they’re making their reality clear here but I’m not happy about it.
They did make it clear who's the boss. Murray.
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Conroy will be on with Pat at 1:10 prior to the game this afternoon.
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