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[dammage79]

Seems to be the M.O of Conroy's tenure so far. Run with what you got until you absolutely have to do something about it.

[Canada 02]

Primeau and Blais
So I assume Reimer will be released from his PTO and wunderkind, Cowan is to the Marlies?

[Roko]

Flames could now trade for DiPietro and put him right in AHL or whatever. As an idea

[Canada 02]

I can't imagine risking playing Cooley (or Prosvetov) for 20-25 games. I said before, the backup goalie will be the biggest reason this team misses the playoffs

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Seems to be the M.O of Conroy's tenure so far. Run with what you got until you absolutely have to do something about it.

I'm OK with the approach, but we can't possibly be serious about making the playoffs this year. We need more pts from backups, not less.

Wolf will need to steal even more games for the dream to come true. Not impossible, just tough.

Maybe CC wants to trade some of our waiver guys for one of these waiver goalies - just to help with the log jam.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

I can't imagine risking playing Cooley (or Prosvetov) for 20-25 games. I said before, the backup goalie will be the biggest reason this team misses the playoffs

1) Conroy feels they already have what it takes… kinda delusional but whatever
2) playoff is not a priority, no matter what they say. Huska just has to squeeze as much as he can from what he got

[savardandjokinen]

Buffalo has 5 relevant goalies now. UPL (IR), Lyon, Georgiev, Ellis, Levi (AHL)

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Buffalo has 5 relevant goalies now. UPL (IR), Lyon, Georgiev, Ellis, Levi (AHL)

It’s more of a bunch of irrelevant goalies

[sureLoss]

Curtis Douglas is 6'9'' 243lbs and has never played a NHL game.

Tampa claiming him for the battle of Florida it seems.

[ah123]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

2) playoff is not a priority, no matter what they say. Huska just has to squeeze as much as he can from what he got

I think this is exactly it, they know there are some really good players in the draft this year, so making the playoffs is fine, being bottom 10 is fine. I expect a sell off if the Flames have a bad start/are far out of the playoff race to get to that bottom 10

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

2) playoff is not a priority, no matter what they say. Huska just has to squeeze as much as he can from what he got

I don't think he has a cynical bone in his body. He says make the playoffs, he means it.

That's why I don't think he is done. The farm might have helped him with his scoring problem (Klapka, Gridin), but he has a goalie problem.

Cooley is either the best net minder you've ever seen, or washed up. He doesn't seem to have an in-between setting. Last year, he delivered about an equal number of both types of performances in the AHL; an amazing awesome run, followed by a post-injury bad run.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Cooley was raw when he joined the organization. Very raw. However, the Flames are really high on him, and think that they will be able to work with him and turn his game around. Maybe they feel he is close and just needs more reps at the NHL game, and have Prosvetov sitting in the wings 'just in case'.


As for playoffs - I doubt it is a priority. It wasn't last season when the Flames were close - Conroy didn't buy. This off-season, Conroy didn't add, especially; on defence where the Flames are fairly weak. Going into this season with a very inexperienced starter + inexperienced backup(s), plus holes on defence (and rumours of opening up a huge hole by trading Andersson for futures) leads me to conclude that the Flames are actually rebuilding, not competing. It is not in their best interests to make the playoffs, I would argue. Conroy just wants a healthy amount of competition, as this is good for the kids' development.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Cooley was raw when he joined the organization. Very raw. However, the Flames are really high on him, and think that they will be able to work with him and turn his game around. Maybe they feel he is close and just needs more reps at the NHL game, and have Prosvetov sitting in the wings 'just in case'.


As for playoffs - I doubt it is a priority. It wasn't last season when the Flames were close - Conroy didn't buy. This off-season, Conroy didn't add, especially; on defence where the Flames are fairly weak. Going into this season with a very inexperienced starter + inexperienced backup(s), plus holes on defence (and rumours of opening up a huge hole by trading Andersson for futures) leads me to conclude that the Flames are actually rebuilding, not competing. It is not in their best interests to make the playoffs, I would argue. Conroy just wants a healthy amount of competition, as this is good for the kids' development.

He chooses his words carefully. He says the expectation is that this team will make the playoffs. He wants them to compete to win every night.

CC also says he is always looking to improve the team, and that he inquires about everyone, but has a plan and won't deal if the price to upgrade doesn't fit.

I don't think he says 'make the playoffs' while quietly doubting that they can. Instead I think he says, why not? The only ones that can decide whether Flames make the playoffs is the team, by playing to 100% potential every night.

Might seem like semantics, but there is some nuance and truth there. He'll always set the bar high for his group of guys.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Curtis Douglas is 6'9'' 243lbs and has never played a NHL game.

Tampa claiming him for the battle of Florida it seems.

Its months off but again this reminds me that the NHL really dropped the ball not having TB vs. Florida in the Winter Classic

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Seems to be the M.O of Conroy's tenure so far. Run with what you got until you absolutely have to do something about it.

Given the goaltending we just witnessed out of those two, I think being proactive is a better choice than f-ing around and finding out. Just the .02

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

He chooses his words carefully. He says the expectation is that this team will make the playoffs. He wants them to compete to win every night.

CC also says he is always looking to improve the team, and that he inquires about everyone, but has a plan and won't deal if the price to upgrade doesn't fit.

I don't think he says 'make the playoffs' while quietly doubting that they can. Instead I think he says, why not? The only ones that can decide whether Flames make the playoffs is the team, by playing to 100% potential every night.

Might seem like semantics, but there is some nuance and truth there. He'll always set the bar high for his group of guys.

I think there is a difference between announcing that the goal is to make the playoffs, and actually trying for the playoffs.


I would very shocked if Conroy came out and said anything different. It is exactly the same as when Feaster announced that the goal was playoffs next season after he had just traded Iginla and Bouwmeester. I would actually be shocked if he said anything different.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Seems to be the M.O of Conroy's tenure so far. Run with what you got until you absolutely have to do something about it.

I think that’s the closest to a rebuild we can hope for. Let the team suck organically rather than purposely scorched earth.

Not investing in a proven back up for wolf this year, and after this pitiful camp is actually the biggest swing at not trying to get minimally better I think I’ve ever witnessed by the franchise.

Credit to Conroy for that!

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Maybe that's the only version of tanking you can get away with under Flames ownership.

Passivity in the face of major red flags.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I do think there is evidence that there is a gap between their public commitment to making the playoffs and the moves they make to support that.
Last year I felt there was no way they would be close to the playoffs with the blueline they went into camp with, plus completely unproven goaltending.
This year, now you have what seems to be really bad back-up goaltending added to the mix.
Perhaps their acceptance of a losing season is higher than we believe.

And I also think there is a difference between a desire to be competitive v. competing.
I think they certainly want the former, but will accept not having the latter.

[Erick Estrada]

Plenty of teams start sasons without proven backup goaltenders. I think some fans are overreacting as half the goaltenders to play last season posted below .900 SV%. The bar is pretty low right now and just having a quality starting goaltender is a leg up on a lot of organizations.