Who should replace Ryan Huska as Flames Head Coach?

[Dan403]

This thread is worse than stupid.

Its ######ed.

[dino7c]

every loss outside the game in vegas has been a one goal game in the third...last year they broke right more often.

One extra save, one extra goal...fine line

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

They're good players who got lots of ice time?

Again, I'm not slamming Huska. Don't think there's anywhere near enough evidence.

The question was specifically about the success ("success"). The MVP and driving force behind that was a goalie put up a generationally excellent rookie season.

Those players had success. But wasn't the point that Huska coaches low scoring, safe hockey? Yet those players (and others like Coleman) had more offence.

Of course Wolf was a factor in overall standings.

[Press Level]

Hay and Gilbert were much worse. So was Risebrough. I would also rank Keenan as a worse coach. If the primary consideration is player deployment, then Guletzen also gets added to the conversation. All of those coaches had better rosters than this one.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Press Level

Hay and Gilbert were much worse. So was Risebrough. I would also rank Keenan as a worse coach. If the primary consideration is player deployment, then Guletzen also gets added to the conversation. All of those coaches had better rosters than this one.

I don't even think Crisp was a very good coach. I think he threw out a super talented team that had been trained for years by the best coach the Flames ever had.

The fact that team lost to the freakin' Kings the year after the cup (the same Kings who got swept the next round and allowed 24 goals in those 4 games) says a lot.

[Press Level]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don't even think Crisp was a very good coach. I think he threw out a super talented team that had been trained for years by the best coach the Flames ever had.

The fact that team lost to the freakin' Kings the year after the cup (the same Kings who got swept the next round and allowed 24 goals in those 4 games) says a lot.

That's fair. I have also always believed that starting the season early in Russia, after a Cup run, didn't leave a lot of gas in the tank for that team in April. Athletes weren't anywhere near the same conditioning level then as they are now.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by troutman

Getting this roster to 96 points last year is a coaching miracle IMO.

Coaching miracle or a goaltending miracle?

They were 29th offensively. Firmly non-playoff caliber.

Which means there had to be an anomaly on the other side.

And the one that sticks out was goals saved above expected. Wolf won 6 games or 12 points by himself

[Rhett44]

Dustin Wolf played like Dominek Hasek last year and it is the only reason we finished anywhere near the playoffs.

Huska is no good.

[Kipper_3434]

If he has any kind of success in the AHL, Sutter Jr. will be next flames head coach.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Press Level

Hay and Gilbert were much worse. So was Risebrough. I would also rank Keenan as a worse coach. If the primary consideration is player deployment, then Guletzen also gets added to the conversation. All of those coaches had better rosters than this one.

I would question anyone who suggests Gilbert had a better roster to work with than this one. Also saying Huska is a better coach than one of the most successful coaches in NHL history in Keenan is pretty laughable. You are jumping some serious hoops here to try and defend Huska.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Dan403

This thread is worse than stupid.

Its ######ed.

The starting of the thread itself is a reflection of Reggie's sense of humor, which a lot of people still don't seem to get. Which makes it even funnier.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

What started tongue in cheek is now a serious matter.

[activeStick]

Gilbert had Iginla, Conroy, Drury, Savard, Gelinas, Reggie, Morris, Lydman, Yelle, Leopold, Turek and Noodles... D was better, F was better, G was worse.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Dustin Wolf played like Dominek Hasek last year and it is the only reason we finished anywhere near the playoffs.

Huska is no good.

I guess he should have won the Vezina

[Jiri Hrdina]

This is where the two sides of the argument differ.

The anti Huska side tends to attribute all of last year to Wolf and Wolf alone, with zero credit given to the coach.

The other side isn't saying Huska deserves ALL of the credit, just that last season's success is likely due to a number of factors, including the goaltending, team buy in, strong seasons from key players, and coaching.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don't even think Crisp was a very good coach. I think he threw out a super talented team that had been trained for years by the best coach the Flames ever had.

Gilmour, Mark Hunter, Hrdina, Fleury, McCrimmon, Murzyn, Ramage, Nattress, and Wamsley never played for Bob Johnson. Joe Nieuwendyk played a total of 15 games for Johnson. That was no longer the Badger's team.

After the debacle of the 1988 playoffs, Crisp came back and got his players to shave their goals against from 305 to 226 – this on a team that had never given up fewer than 289 goals in their entire time in Calgary. That takes some coaching.

I can't agree with you about Crisp. He got results that no one before or after ever got, but his temper wore out his welcome in a hurry.

[Press Level]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would question anyone who suggests Gilbert had a better roster to work with than this one. Also saying Huska is a better coach than one of the most successful coaches in NHL history in Keenan is pretty laughable. You are jumping some serious hoops here to try and defend Huska.

lol, really?! He had Iggy in his prime plus almost the entire core that went to the '04 final. I feel like this wasn't a serious statement? Or do you truly believe that the current roster is only 1-2 players away from challenging for a Stanley Cup?

[Locke]

We need the 'Dream-Team Trifecta!'

Glen Gulutzan as Head Coach with Bill Peters and get Rich Preston back on the Powerplay!

Thats playoffs for suresies!!

Maybe see if you can shoehorn Brent Sutter in there somewhere.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

This is where the two sides of the argument differ.

The anti Huska side tends to attribute all of last year to Wolf and Wolf alone, with zero credit given to the coach.

The other side isn't saying Huska deserves ALL of the credit, just that last season's success is likely due to a number of factors, including the goaltending, team buy in, strong seasons from key players, and coaching.

agreed, Wolf was great for a rookie...he wasn't even a top 3-5 goalie though let alone the best goalie performance in 25 years like a certain poster seems to think. This idea that the Flames basically stole 96 points is wrong. Vladar was .500 and well above it in the 2nd half when him and the Flames were playing better. I mean they were top 10 from January 31st on. Top 6 in the final 20 games.

Great goaltending, strong defensive and 5 on 5 play, Huberdeau and Kadri with career highs in goals. Coach has to have something to do with that...even now they are one of the better 5 on 5 teams.

[McG]

After watching the Ted lasso documentary, we should replicate that success by finding a field hockey coach.

It’s a feel good story with new tactics!

Honestly, bigger nets, candy cane curved sticks and a bigger playing surface might be just what we need.