Run it and you will see that if you make $8m (prob what he will make), take home in Nevada is just over $5m. In California, it’s just over $4m. So over a 8 year contract, that’s $8m over the period of the contract that he’d be losing if he signed in LA vs LV. Kind of a no brainer.
Yeah, but that assumes both teams would offer the same salary. The inneundo here is that the Kings were willing to buck up and make it worth his while. I'm sure many teams would have paid Marner more in dollars than what Vegas did.
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I think the blow your socks off was referencing the contract offfer to Andersson, not the return in trade.
No, Dreger was definitely referring to the trade offer from LA.
It's around the 6 minute mark of the video.
"They had phenomenal offers. Phenomenal for Rasmus Andersson. One from LA that would blow your socks off. Um, not players, but anyway, a hell of an offer."
Saying "not players" confirms he's talking about the trade offer because that wouldn't make any sense in reference to a contract offer.
Also, by all accounts, he wasn't interested in talking to LA, so it would have never reached a point where they discussed a contract. The Kings certainly wouldn't have shared what they were willing to give him with the Flames because that would just give the Flames information they could use in negotiations with the player.
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Run it and you will see that if you make $8m (prob what he will make), take home in Nevada is just over $5m. In California, it’s just over $4m. So over a 8 year contract, that’s $8m over the period of the contract that he’d be losing if he signed in LA vs LV. Kind of a no brainer.
I think you need to cut that number in half though (simplified obviously), as players only get the tax benefit for home games. They pay the road teams tax rates for all away games. Still a big difference though
The way I see it is LA wasn’t on Andy’s no trade list and when offered the deal it seems obvious it would be contingent on an extension especially if it was a ‘blow your socks off’ offer. Conny approaches Andersson who informs him that he wouldn’t extend in LA which kills the interest from the Kings perspective as well as the significant offer. I don’t see how this is ‘ on Conroy’ at the end of the day if the player isn’t willing to extend with the team offering a package likely contingent on the player extending than there isn’t really anything Conroy could do. Also I appreciate Conroy leaving no stone unturned and approaching Andersson with the trade opportunity; if he had agreed we’d likely be praising Conroy. The trade will happen the stars just need to align is all.
People debating Los Angeles vs. Las Vegas as a landing spot. I lived 2 years in Vegas and 16 years in LA, so feel I have some perspective on this.
Education for your kids is a non-issue in my mind. If you're a multi-millionaire, you can pick whatever private school you want.
Vegas real estate is much cheaper than comparable LA properties. Once you get outside the Strip, Henderson is lovely. I lived in the northern part of Vegas, surrounded by horse stables, orchards, a petting zoo. Very nice. The road system is better maintained than anywhere I've seen.
WAY too hot in the summer months. You can't really do much outside.
Yes, selected real estate in LA can be pricey. Again, so what if you've the money. You can live by the ocean or in the hills. Close to skiing, wineries, aviation, sports.
The weather is to die for. Very mild all year round, no humidity, no bugs, lots of sun.
My $0.02
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People debating Los Angeles vs. Las Vegas as a landing spot. I lived 2 years in Vegas and 16 years in LA, so feel I have some perspective on this.
Education for your kids is a non-issue in my mind. If you're a multi-millionaire, you can pick whatever private school you want.
Vegas real estate is much cheaper than comparable LA properties. Once you get outside the Strip, Henderson is lovely. I lived in the northern part of Vegas, surrounded by horse stables, orchards, a petting zoo. Very nice. The road system is better maintained than anywhere I've seen.
WAY too hot in the summer months. You can't really do much outside.
Yes, selected real estate in LA can be pricey. Again, so what if you've the money. You can live by the ocean or in the hills. Close to skiing, wineries, aviation, sports.
The weather is to die for. Very mild all year round, no humidity, no bugs, lots of sun.
My $0.02
So sounds like LA is the better spot? Thays what I would've thought.
I dont really get the full appeal of Vegas. Sure I'd take the desert over Winnipeg, but theres many spots i would rather live, including LA.
Maybe Rasmus is weighing the competitiveness of the team heavily. I would be a little wary of the future outlook of the kings.
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So sounds like LA is the better spot? Thays what I would've thought.
I dont really get the full appeal of Vegas. Sure I'd take the desert over Winnipeg, but theres many spots i would rather live, including LA.
Maybe Rasmus is weighing the competitiveness of the team heavily. I would be a little wary of the future outlook of the kings.
Taxes, rep as a competing team (players are short sighted in this regard), lifestyle (Rasmus likes a casino). And there's some nice neighborhoods in the Vegas area.
No competitive team today is going to be competitive for the next 7-8 seasons. It is the nature of the cap.
If I were Rasmus, in addition to ensuring a good QOL of the ice, I would be looking for teams just entering their competitive window, and not those leaving it (LA, Vegas, Tampa, Edm, etc)
Teams like Montreal, NJ, Utah, Dallas, etc have a much brighter future.
I have a friend who lives in Henderson, NV, who I have visited frequently- and I would LOVE to live there. It’s beautiful, and the houses are cheaper than in other markets.
I have a friend who lives in Henderson, NV, who I have visited frequently- and I would LOVE to live there. It’s beautiful, and the houses are cheaper than in other markets.
Its a nice place, but the thing is Kam does make a very cromulent point about Nevada in the Summer.
I've been to Vegas many times, but once, once, I had to attend in July for an event...its way, way too hot. Maybe we as Canadians are something like 'reverse-used' to it?
We're used to it being so cold outside we stay inside for months, but that July in Vegas? You cant dress for that. I thought I was going to die.
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Its a nice place, but the thing is Kam does make a very cromulent point about Nevada in the Summer.
I've been to Vegas many times, but once, once, I had to attend in July for an event...its way, way too hot. Maybe we as Canadians are something like 'reverse-used' to it?
We're used to it being so cold outside we stay inside for months, but that July in Vegas? You cant dress for that. I thought I was going to die.
The heat perhaps doesn’t bother me as much as others, but the way I see it- you are going from air-conditioned place to air-conditioned place when it gets hot. The only thing wrong with Vegas IMO, is what’s wrong with most American cities, and that’s the areas of town that you wouldn’t want your car to break down in. North Las Vegas is like hell on earth.
PS: The hottest I’ve ever been was NY in the summertime. Way hotter than Vegas because of the humidity.
The heat perhaps doesn’t bother me as much as others, but the way I see it- you are going from air-conditioned place to air-conditioned place when it gets hot. The only thing wrong with Vegas IMO, is what’s wrong with most American cities, and that’s the areas of town that you wouldn’t want your car to break down in. North Las Vegas is like hell on earth.
Totally. Just like our winters, most people are just sticking to climate control.
And Vegas, yeah, there's a reason so many seasons of COPS were shot there
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Its a nice place, but the thing is Kam does make a very cromulent point about Nevada in the Summer.
I've been to Vegas many times, but once, once, I had to attend in July for an event...its way, way too hot. Maybe we as Canadians are something like 'reverse-used' to it?
We're used to it being so cold outside we stay inside for months, but that July in Vegas? You cant dress for that. I thought I was going to die.
Yeah my thick Canadian skin and blood doesn't do well in Calgary summers, let alone that Vegas or Arizona convection oven. It's oppressive, just brutal.
... Yet I moved to the Caribbean. I might be a moron.
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No competitive team today is going to be competitive for the next 7-8 seasons. It is the nature of the cap.
If I were Rasmus, in addition to ensuring a good QOL of the ice, I would be looking for teams just entering their competitive window, and not those leaving it (LA, Vegas, Tampa, Edm, etc)
Teams like Montreal, NJ, Utah, Dallas, etc have a much brighter future.
The point is not "which team will be competitive for 8 seasons". The point is that Andersson should be looking at who has the best chances to be cup contenders within the next 8 years.
An example as to how I would look at it:
1) Stars, 'Canes, VGK, Panthers, Lightning = All competitive now but will likely decline in the next 5 seasons.
2) Mammoth, Sharks, Ducks, Blackhawks = Not competitive now but should be trending into playoff and cup contender status over the next few seasons
3) Kings, Bruins, Capitals = Have been competitive for a while and are on the tail end of their respective cores
Group 1 is appealing because they are in the thick of it now and pushing for a cup. Andersson could be one of the final pieces to the puzzle to put the team over the top.
Group 2 is appealing because they have tanked hard for a long time and now have a pile of good young players. Andersson could join a team in this group and help them shift gears from tanking to winning and they have enough talent to win big.
Group 3 is not very appealing. These teams have aging stars and pretty depleted prospect pipelines. They are likely going to need to start a full on rebuild or retoool, at which point Andersson may as well just stay in Calgary.
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Its a nice place, but the thing is Kam does make a very cromulent point about Nevada in the Summer.
I've been to Vegas many times, but once, once, I had to attend in July for an event...its way, way too hot. Maybe we as Canadians are something like 'reverse-used' to it?
We're used to it being so cold outside we stay inside for months, but that July in Vegas? You cant dress for that. I thought I was going to die.
Sure, but July in Vegas is a non-issue for a hockey player who is likely going to spend his summers in Sweden.
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