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Cheese · 01-08-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Hey, you are a religious zealot lacking, merely the god. I find it comical how you turn all of these threads into a pupit aimed at converting people to your beliefs. That is one of the main problems I have with all of these sects.

Each man has the right to choose his own path, and those that push others down their paths will always be treated with disdain.

Missed this one...wow talk about a wee bit of hatred. Im on a pulpit am I? Well so be it...if the world allows the Priests, Ministers, Rabbis, Cardinals, Popes and the multitude of others in a religious hierarchy, then why not those who disbelieve? I dont think youll find one post where Ive specifically said...come and join the Humanists...nor will you find me saying, tithe your money or pass a collection plate.
Funny how the religious zealots get all upset when others steal their thunder.
All of this because they have no proof in their God....none.

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 03:46 PM

No, but you will find plenty of your posts that are all but calling people of faith idiots.

You're not understanding tha tthe difference between believing science and having a faith is believing in what you can prove and believing in what you can feel.

It's all so stupid to you if a missionary knocks on your door and tells you that you are perceiving the world the wrong way. Why is is so stupid? Because he is speaking from his point of view. From a faith point of view.

the reason why people hate the throat shoving bible thumpers is because they don't like being told that they way they think is wrong. And they are right. What gives them the right to tell anyone tha tthey are not thinking hte right way?

Well, Cheese, you do the exact same thing. In reverse.

Cheese · 01-08-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

No, but you will find plenty of your posts that are all but calling people of faith idiots.

You're not understanding tha tthe difference between believing science and having a faith is believing in what you can prove and believing in what you can feel.

It's all so stupid to you if a missionary knocks on your door and tells you that you are perceiving the world the wrong way. Why is is so stupid? Because he is speaking from his point of view. From a faith point of view.

the reason why people hate the throat shoving bible thumpers is because they don't like being told that they way they think is wrong. And they are right. What gives them the right to tell anyone tha tthey are not thinking hte right way?

Well, Cheese, you do the exact same thing. In reverse.

Oh cmon why dont you stretch for things. I havent called anyone an idiot at all. Ive never even said anyone will go to <fill in the blank bad place> if they dont believe me. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
Because I suggest that religious people have no proof that constitutes me calling them an idiot? man

Would it be better if us Atheists just shut up and let religions continue on unabated? Is that what you want?

I think we can find you on a pulpit as well...or were those really your words and not those of your local parrish?

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 04:20 PM

Relax. I said that you all but call them idiots.

You can take this however you want, man. Look at the religous threads in the last while. It's not uncommon that they end up with Cheese shooting down people of faith left and right.

If you're insulted, then maybe you should look in the mirror. Maybe you're as annoying as the bible thumpers.

Have you forgotton that everyone is entitled to an opinion? Some people form their opinion through faith. No matter how stupid you think that is, you'll never be able to convince the entire world.

All I'm saying...

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheese

I think we can find you on a pulpit as well...or were those really your words and not those of your local parrish?

Mylocal parrish, eh? Yeah, cause I'm going on and on about why you are not following the right religion (or that you're FOLLOWING A RELIGION).

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Would it be better if us Atheists just shut up and let religions continue on unabated? Is that what you want?

I dunno... Would it be better if the religous just shut up and let the atheists go on unabated? Edit: Oh... Meant to chime in with a few of those sayings... Different strokes for different folks... Beauty is in the eye of hte beholder... To each his own... [/edit]

Please, Cheese... Enlighten me with your religion bashing answer. Tell this "local parrish" attending feller (stolen from reg) why your way is the only correct way to think...

RougeUnderoos · 01-08-2006, 05:03 PM

Anyone interested in educating themself on this subject or philosophy in general should tune into Showcase tonight at 10:30 mst. It's an episode of Kenny vs Spenny and tonight they are trying to see who can sell more bibles.

Cheese · 01-08-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

I dunno... Would it be better if the religous just shut up and let the atheists go on unabated? Edit: Oh... Meant to chime in with a few of those sayings... Different strokes for different folks... Beauty is in the eye of hte beholder... To each his own... [/edit]

Please, Cheese... Enlighten me with your religion bashing answer. Tell this "local parrish" attending feller (stolen from reg) why your way is the only correct way to think...

LOL.....Ohhhhh the gauntlet has been thrown. No I dont tell anyone to come to the light...thats your job! LOL.
The only bashing I do is to continue to ask you for the proof. Im not alone in my asking...theres millions more of me. Different strokes is good as long as it doesnt mean asking Christians or any other organized religion poignant questions. Does that make you angry?

Cheese · 01-08-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Mylocal parrish, eh? Yeah, cause I'm going on and on about why you are not following the right religion (or that you're FOLLOWING A RELIGION).

LOL...on and on you go...heres the religion you follow:

Ten Punishments
(Let's post these in the schoolroom!)

1. Exodus 22:20: He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

2. Leviticus 24:16: And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death.

3. Exodus 31:15: Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

4. Exodus 21:15: He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

5. Exodus 21:17: He that curseth his father or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

6. Exodus 22:19: Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

7. Leviticus 20:13: If a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death.

8. Leviticus 20:10: And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.

9. Mark 16:16: He that believeth not, shall be damned.

10. Malachi 2:1-4: And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. If you will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart to give glory to my name, ... behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.

"Thou Shalt Not Bear False Testimony Against Thy Neighbor." Against thy neighbor!? Why only "against thy neighbor"? If it's wrong for one, it's wrong for all, isn't it? Or is it? As I studied the Bible more closely, I discovered that one's "neighbor" is one's fellow religionist. We of other faiths (or no faith) are fair game for false accusation.

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 05:19 PM

I love how you completely disregard the fact that I have yet to post my religous beliefs and still ask me to prove (jesus' existance)...?

Then you preceed to post some cheesy (no pun intended) version of the ten commandments.

Hey pal, If you can't stand the heat, quit beaking off. I told you earlier that you're coming off as a religous zealot, sans religon. Wait, snakeye (I think) told you that... I agreed...

Anyhoo, If you don't want to acknowledge what I'm saying, and just throw the cheese bible in my face, so be it. Go ahead and be right. You're sooo right. Never wrong, just right.

FireFly · 01-08-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheese

LOL...on and on you go...heres the religion you follow:

Ten Punishments

(Let's post these in the schoolroom!)

1. Exodus 22:20: He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

2. Leviticus 24:16: And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death.

3. Exodus 31:15: Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

4. Exodus 21:15: He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

5. Exodus 21:17: He that curseth his father or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

6. Exodus 22:19: Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

7. Leviticus 20:13: If a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death.

8. Leviticus 20:10: And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.

9. Mark 16:16: He that believeth not, shall be damned.

10. Malachi 2:1-4: And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. If you will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart to give glory to my name, ... behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.

"Thou Shalt Not Bear False Testimony Against Thy Neighbor." Against thy neighbor!? Why only "against thy neighbor"? If it's wrong for one, it's wrong for all, isn't it? Or is it? As I studied the Bible more closely, I discovered that one's "neighbor" is one's fellow religionist. We of other faiths (or no faith) are fair game for false accusation.

The death you are speaking of is the death of the soul.

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 05:21 PM

Oh, forgot to give props to Cheese's 6th commandment. I guess beastiality is cool in Cheese's stable?

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 05:26 PM

Wait a minute.. Are YOU putting words in my mouth? The religion I follow? Wow... You just don't see it.

You take arbitrary passages from a book that I have yet to acknowledge, warp them into your own interpretation and shove them down my throat as my beleifs. And still fail to see just exactly what it is that I'm saying... Y'know, about you being a ****ing zealot, sans religion.

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 05:29 PM

Hurry up, cheese... It's 1:30 here. I gotta hear your assinine reply before hitting the sack...

evman150 · 01-08-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Oh, forgot to give props to Cheese's 6th commandment. I guess beastiality is cool in Cheese's stable?

I'm fine with it. If you want to stick it in a horse that's your business. Sure the hell doesn't affect me.

Those PETA whackos might have a problem with it though.

Winsor_Pilates · 01-08-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4X4

Oh, forgot to give props to Cheese's 6th commandment. I guess beastiality is cool in Cheese's stable?

It may not be cool, but is it worthy of being put to death?

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 05:45 PM

Oh jesus. Why do you ask? Because I am on my high horse telling you that thou shalt live thy life according to 4x4?

Do you need my input? Yeah, ****ing horses is wrong. There, I said it. It's not normal, its bad, it's scientifically incorrect... A human penis is not made for horses vagina or anus. Look it up. Google it.

Edit... Put to death? Did cheese tell you that?

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 05:51 PM

Cheese... Oh, Cheese... Wherefore art thou, Cheese?

4X4 · 01-08-2006, 06:04 PM

Cheese, your silence is deafening. I'd almost rather be scrapping Hakan or Agamemnon. Oh, but they actually use fact. No, scrapping you is more fun.

Resolute 14 · 01-08-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheese

Missed this one...wow talk about a wee bit of hatred. Im on a pulpit am I? Well so be it...if the world allows the Priests, Ministers, Rabbis, Cardinals, Popes and the multitude of others in a religious hierarchy, then why not those who disbelieve? I dont think youll find one post where Ive specifically said...come and join the Humanists...nor will you find me saying, tithe your money or pass a collection plate.
Funny how the religious zealots get all upset when others steal their thunder.
All of this because they have no proof in their God....none.

Hatred? No. I respect your beliefs, and find no reason to fault you for them. The irony of your arguments are not lost on me, however. Even the leaders of most major religions are able to respect and tolerate the beliefs of those with other faiths. Yet you feel the need to cut down anyone who disagrees with your view, as if you have the only true path.