03-09-2024, 02:49 PM
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Gotcha. Reasoning makes sense but I didn’t view their D depth as being anything really special.
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03-09-2024, 03:38 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Caboose
It's hilarious to me that the Flames sold 3 of their top six D, picked up two from waivers, got a couple more maybes from trades, and STILL have a much, much better defense than the Oilers.
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Since this isn't the Edmonton is No Good thread... I'm not sure I can agree that Weegar, Andersson, Kylington, Pachal, Hanley, Miromanov is much, much better than Ekholm, Bouchard, Desharnais, Nurse, Ceci, Kulak.
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03-09-2024, 04:59 PM
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#103
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Since this isn't the Edmonton is No Good thread... I'm not sure I can agree that Weegar, Andersson, Kylington, Pachal, Hanley, Miromanov is much, much better than Ekholm, Bouchard, Desharnais, Nurse, Ceci, Kulak.
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IMO Weegar and Anderson probably are the top 2 on either team, if either played on the Oilers PP they would be a PPG dman and better defensively than Bouchard. Ekholm and Nurse with Bouchard are all good but nothing special at this point. Ceci, Kulak and Desharnais don't make up the differnce at the top.
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03-09-2024, 05:26 PM
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#104
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Could we get a 4th from Jersey at the draft if we offered up Dansk? Seems like Dansk is the potential starting goalie they may be looking for at the draft.
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Dansk is a 30 year old career minor leaguer.
He’s minor league depth.
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03-09-2024, 05:28 PM
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#105
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Dansk is a 30 year old career minor leaguer.
He’s minor league depth.
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I believe that’s the joke.
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03-09-2024, 05:32 PM
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#106
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I believe that’s the joke.
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I hope so LOL.
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03-09-2024, 06:44 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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I can't find it anywhere so I thought I'd ask you fine folks....
Is Florida's 1st from the Matthew Tkachuk trade a possible 2026? I know it's a conditional 2025 but I thought there was a way it could be a 2026.
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03-09-2024, 06:54 PM
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#108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame
I can't find it anywhere so I thought I'd ask you fine folks....
Is Florida's 1st from the Matthew Tkachuk trade a possible 2026? I know it's a conditional 2025 but I thought there was a way it could be a 2026.
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If the pick is a top ten the Flames don’t get it
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03-09-2024, 06:57 PM
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#109
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Friedman on HNIC:
Ullmark blocked a trade to a team on his no trade list... couldn't confirm if it was LA
Bruins have had discussions with a few teams that aren't on his no trade list and those discussions have been punted to later
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03-09-2024, 07:03 PM
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#110
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame
I can't find it anywhere so I thought I'd ask you fine folks....
Is Florida's 1st from the Matthew Tkachuk trade a possible 2026? I know it's a conditional 2025 but I thought there was a way it could be a 2026.
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Here is an explanation:
https://thewincolumn.ca/2023/11/14/a...with-diagrams/
In regards to your question, getting the 2026 pick from Florida means the Flames don't have a 1st in 2025 as they have to transfer their 2025 pick to Montreal. The only exception being if the Flames draft 1st OA in 2025, then they give the better of Florida or Calgary's 2026 1st plus a 2026 3rd to Montreal.
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03-09-2024, 08:32 PM
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#111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Here is an explanation:
https://thewincolumn.ca/2023/11/14/a...with-diagrams/
In regards to your question, getting the 2026 pick from Florida means the Flames don't have a 1st in 2025 as they have to transfer their 2025 pick to Montreal. The only exception being if the Flames draft 1st OA in 2025, then they give the better of Florida or Calgary's 2026 1st plus a 2026 3rd to Montreal. |
Man, I just tried to read the Calgary 1st to Montreal conditions and my brain hurts.
But it seems a lock we'll get Florida's 2025, no?
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03-09-2024, 08:39 PM
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#112
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Originally Posted by chedder
Man, I just tried to read the Calgary 1st to Montreal conditions and my brain hurts.
But it seems a lock we'll get Florida's 2025, no?
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As long as it doesn't go to the tiebreaker:
If any doubt remains as to which draft pick is conveyed to Montreal and which remains with Calgary, the lawyers for the two teams shall recite the complete rules of the NHL Salary Cap system, verbatim, from memory. The first lawyer to get a 100% correct response wins.
In the event of a further tie, the teams shall battle it out on the rules for offside video calls.
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03-09-2024, 08:57 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
Man, I just tried to read the Calgary 1st to Montreal conditions and my brain hurts.
But it seems a lock we'll get Florida's 2025, no?
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If CGY’s pick is top-10 and Florida’s is not: Montreal gets Florida’s
If CGY’s pick is not top-10: Montreal gets the better of the two picks
If CGY and FLA’s picks are both top-10: Montreal gets CGY’s pick unless it is 1st overall
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03-09-2024, 09:04 PM
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#114
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Behind you.
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Nm
Last edited by Burn13; 03-09-2024 at 09:06 PM.
Reason: Nm
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03-09-2024, 09:11 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: About 5200 Miles from the Dome
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^Stupid Treliving.
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03-09-2024, 09:13 PM
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#116
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
If CGY’s pick is top-10 and Florida’s is not: Montreal gets Florida’s
If CGY’s pick is not top-10: Montreal gets the better of the two picks
If CGY and FLA’s picks are both top-10: Montreal gets CGY’s pick unless it is 1st overall
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I wonder what exactly Treliving was trying to protect with these convoluted conditions.
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03-09-2024, 09:33 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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So I guess we really need to make sure the pick is top 10 next year?
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03-09-2024, 09:36 PM
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#118
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Yeah it really needs to be a top 10 pick next year. Florida is too good to nosedive off the cliff to a bottom 10 finish.
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03-09-2024, 09:38 PM
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#119
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by butterfly
I wonder what exactly Treliving was trying to protect with these convoluted conditions.
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His ego.
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03-09-2024, 09:40 PM
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#120
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
If CGY’s pick is top-10 and Florida’s is not: Montreal gets Florida’s
If CGY’s pick is not top-10: Montreal gets the better of the two picks
If CGY and FLA’s picks are both top-10: Montreal gets CGY’s pick unless it is 1st overall
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This is really infuriating. In what world does a competent GM not protect a top 3 or 5 pick at all costs, especially in a trade that you only made to gain cap space? This makes sense if you acquired some young stud. God I really really dislike BT.
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