[PGT] Canuks 4, Flames 3

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Mangi had a bad second half, there were people that wanted him traded

They wanted him in the package for Eichel. That’s a little different.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Very possible.

I do like that Huska rewards those playing better more ice time. Mangiapane is a favorite player of mine but he’s been making a lot of boneheaded mistakes lately.

For Huska I think it's about being consistent and not picking favourites, which I think we've seen.

Once you establish that with your team it's like an internal battle to be in the mix, which can never hurt.

More and more I find myself hoping Huska can survive a retool because he may be an above average coach. Not sure teams like Calgary can find above average coaches unless they develop them themselves.

[Bingo]

Mangiapane is top 5 in almost every play driving stat on the team.

Last night he had a few bobbles and ended up in the Bowman Bench, but that doesn't take away from him being a quality hockey player.

He seems to lack the finish to convert those chances since his half season explosion, and may not get back to those levels for sure.

But he's a quality hockey player.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by devel

I don’t think he took #91 to take Kadri’s number. His number 16 is Trevor Linden’s number, so I think he just rotated 16, 180 degrees and came up with 91.

lol. he took 91 to become Nikata Federov....

[Naitix]

I actually think Mang has been way better this year than last, I don’t have much of an issue with him. He is just not a top line player nor a 35 goal scorer, he’s a good top 9 player that can score 20 per year. Ya he’s a bit overplayed right now but it’s not by much

[GioforPM]

On CF, Mangiapane is ranked 152 in salary. 93 among forwards. His PPG is right around where it should be for that level of salary.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by zamler

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Sure. But VAN got off to a hot start, playing a bunch of crappy teams. And the Flames got off to a terrible start. Since Nov 1:

CGY: 8-4-2, .643
VAN: 10-6-0, .625

The difference between these two teams is the same as it was before the season started: marginal.

[Enoch Root]

Thought it was a pretty even game. Each teams had stretches where they were driving the play. The difference came down to bounces. On Van's third goal, the Flames could have had a 3 on 1, but the puck hit something and went back to the front of the net where there were 3 Canucks, totally out of position. Even then, Andersson could have cleared it, but it eluded him. Then it floats up and over Markstrom.

Then the fourth goal curves 20 ft to find the net. The Nucks are getting bounces right now. That's hockey.

None the less, that first goal on Markstrom was unforgivable.

[Teroy]

The game was terrible. Markstrom made some good saves but as usual just waved at a couple that blew by him. The 10 million dollar man was just so, so, as usual. I don't mind Hanifin but he made some gaffs as did Weeger and Tanev. Mangiapane & Dube work their butts off but can't finish. The constant revolving door for young defensemen has to end. Make a decision and let someone settle it.

Zary's efforts on the first goal, to keep the puck on side, was special. He deserved all the assists on that goal.

Overall, the team hasn't improved. We're still trying for the wild card spot. Wasn't that was where we were at last year?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by zamler

Van is a better team. I hate saying that.

Yeah, I don't think so. They played a solid game tonight, but that team still looks like they are on the bubble, much like the Flames.

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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

All the ones currently bin jail or shot because they protested.. one thing to do it when your most likely never going back another to be on the protest lines.

I think this post is terrible.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Meh. Nucks have finished their rebuild and are going for it. Can't complain about the Flames trading them a D man for futures and still being competitive against them in a game that could have gone either way. Nice to see the powerplay goals and Lindholm pumping up his trade value.

This is how I see things.

Vancouver has just started their take-off, and are gaining speed down the runway. We will see how much runway is there, and how high they can climb. I personally don't think there is a lot there, but it is always fun for fans to watch their teams compete. And this is how 90% of hockey rebuilds go: teams become increasingly competitive without winning anything while their young star players grow and improve. Only a tiny fraction ever find the secret ingredient of incredibly good fortune and sustained health over the course of a season to win it all.

I thought the Flames played a decent game—not great, not terrible—but definitely good enough to win against this Canucks team that looks like they will be on the bubble for the rest of the year. It was still a pretty fun game.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Sure. But VAN got off to a hot start, playing a bunch of crappy teams. And the Flames got off to a terrible start. Since Nov 1:

CGY: 8-4-2, .643
VAN: 10-6-0, .625

The difference between these two teams is the same as it was before the season started: marginal.

The difference is the have a legit star in Pettersen, a legit #1 D in Hughes and probably a better goalie in Demko

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The difference is the have a legit star in Pettersen, a legit #1 D in Hughes and probably a better goalie in Demko

they had all those guys last year too

at the end of a long rebuild they are...average

maybe the Flames are below average, they are still under .500 to be fair

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they had all those guys last year too

at the end of a long rebuild they are...average

maybe the Flames are below average, they are still under .500 to be fair

Well, they stepped up this year

Miller and Boeser are also playing well

They do lack depth especially on the defense but we just gifted them Zadorov

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

The difference is the have a legit star in Pettersen, a legit #1 D in Hughes and probably a better goalie in Demko

Teams are teams - a composition of the whole, not a reflection of their best players.

Or the Oilers would be good.

[monkeyman]

I thought the team came out a little tentative, but really came on later. Overall, I liked what I saw. I thought the game could’ve easily gone our way with a break or two. I’m not too upset with the outcome considering the way they played.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I wasn't surprised to see Mangiapane be one of the players sit in the third as he was having a rough game. He was somewhat responsible for the first goal against where he gave away the puck preventing a line change by the Flames and the Canucks poured it on, forcing the Flames to ice the puck to relieve the pressure. They gave up the goal on the ensuing face-off with tired Flames players running around in their own zone.

Put together with him not getting anything done offensively, he was pretty deserving of the benching in the third. Maybe it's time for him to move down to the 4th line? Ruzicka or Dube up to the Lindholm line to see if that would work?

One thing I'm liking about Huska is he's not afraid to drop minutes to whoever is struggling on the night.
It doesn't have to be a big deal either, it's just one game and he's adjusting accordingly.

Could be one of the contributing factors to the team's comeback abilities.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Teams are teams - a composition of the whole, not a reflection of their best players.

Or the Oilers would be good.

Oilers is a bad example

Yes, teams are teams but good teams have star players. Name a team that won without a star forward or a true #1 dman

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah, I don't think so. They played a solid game tonight, but that team still looks like they are on the bubble, much like the Flames.

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Yeah, they may have built themselves up enough of a buffer to make the playoffs with their hot start but I wouldn't be shocked either if they end up missing in the end like the Flames did the year Turek signed his extension.