11-09-2023, 11:27 AM
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#101
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
He might end up like other small goalies like Saros and Shesterkin.
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Its funny how a 6' goalie is considered small now. Back in the day he'd of looked like Chara was playing net.
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11-09-2023, 11:31 AM
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#102
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by saillias
Conroy is so much better than the previous regime on prospects it's a miracle.
To me it's weird how this fanbase talks itself into positions where having Wolf up is actually bad, because he might be good. "We actually want to lose and he might win which screws up our plans" mentality. The thing is a rebuild is something that happens against your will. If the prospects you have can make you not bad, every org in the league would take that.
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You have to give credit to Huska too. He's willing to put the prospects in game 1 of their call up rather than letting them watch from the press box for 2 weeks.
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11-09-2023, 11:32 AM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
All 3!
Samsonov
Klingberg
1st
3rd
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Tanev (50%)
Zadorov (50%)
Vladar
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lol I like!
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11-09-2023, 11:35 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Young Guns
Its funny how a 6' goalie is considered small now. Back in the day he'd of looked like Chara was playing net.
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I think Wolf stood on his toes when he was measured at 6’
Saros looks bigger than him.
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11-09-2023, 11:35 AM
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#105
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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My theory; Markstrom is banged up, Vladar will be showcased for a future trade, and Wolf is here to play backup.
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11-09-2023, 11:43 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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I hope this means we see Wolf get a start in a meaningful NHL game and he’s not just up for injury insurance.
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11-09-2023, 11:43 AM
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#107
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Parallex
His GAA and SV% are nearly identical to last year... he's not giving up goals on the first shot he faces like he was last year and the rest of the team have been playing worse so he doesn't stick out like a sore thumb as much as he did last year.
I would say that he's been slightly better then last year (factoring in the play in front of him) but I wouldn't proclaim him "solid".
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The team's expected goals against with Markstrom in net has gone up from 2.75/60 all situations last year to 3.29/60 this year. Up 20%
His hd shots against have gone up from 8.23/60 to 9.75/60. Up 18.5%.
He has to play significantly better to hold his numbers flat season over season.
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11-09-2023, 11:43 AM
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#108
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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11-09-2023, 11:43 AM
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#109
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy
My theory; Markstrom is banged up, Vladar will be showcased for a future trade, and Wolf is here to play backup.
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Showcased? And this is honestly for anyone, not picking on you. But what exactly do you guys think the value is for Vladar? He had 1 average season when you guys were a really good team and aside from a nice W/L record even then, his stats were just meh. Aside from that, he bounced a lot between the ECHL and AHL and has had otherwise not great numbers really anywhere.
I've given up trying to understand why people are OK keeping the 2 time AHL goalie of the year off the roster, I would settle for just understanding why the trade value of Dan Vladar is such a high priority for this fan base.
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11-09-2023, 11:44 AM
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#110
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
lol. so what is the actual outcome? Are you actually saying Markstrom has been good the past 2 years? that he actually hasn't sucked against the Oilers??
I'll take some of the paste you've been eating!
When you are no good against the No Goods you don't deserve to be our starting goalie.
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If a player is playing for the Flames I generally hope he plays well and helps the team succeed, and don't throw in a playoff series from two years ago to continue to make the claim that he sucks when lately he hasn't.
You be you though!
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11-09-2023, 11:46 AM
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#111
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoop27
There had better be a corresponding move.
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It's probably very brief. I could see him being returned after a game.
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11-09-2023, 11:47 AM
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#112
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dobbles
Showcased? And this is honestly for anyone, not picking on you. But what exactly do you guys think the value is for Vladar? He had 1 average season when you guys were a really good team and aside from a nice W/L record even then, his stats were just meh. Aside from that, he bounced a lot between the ECHL and AHL and has had otherwise not great numbers really anywhere.
I've given up trying to understand why people are OK keeping the 2 time AHL goalie of the year off the roster, I would settle for just understanding why the trade value of Dan Vladar is such a high priority for this fan base.
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.936 in the AHL is "not great"
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11-09-2023, 11:51 AM
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#113
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
.936 in the AHL is "not great"
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Only 25 games 4 seasons ago. What makes you think that is the normal? 58 NHL games since then. .896 average.
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11-09-2023, 11:52 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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So...Vladar and Markstrom finally patch together a couple good games and NOW we call up Wolf?
What the actual fata guys?
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11-09-2023, 11:54 AM
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#115
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by dobbles
My one worry as a huge Wolf fan is that the in consistency of ups and downs could prevent him from getting into a groove and cause his play to not be stellar. Which then means he's back down for the rest of the year...
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Yeah, I just don't think Wolf is that fragile. This has always struck me as an extremely low-risk situation.
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11-09-2023, 11:56 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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What's with the kerfuffles?
This should be a celebratory occasion.
Guarantee its just for the weekend. Sits on the bench in TO and plays in Ottawa.
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11-09-2023, 11:56 AM
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#117
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#1 Goaltender
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#### yeah. Play him immediately.
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11-09-2023, 11:57 AM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dobbles
Only 25 games 4 seasons ago. What makes you think that is the normal? 58 NHL games since then. .896 average.
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You said he didn't have great numbers anywhere, he does though
Also that was 19/20 season, season cancelled so only 25 games
Guy just turned 26, he will be a good goalie for someone it would be stupid to give him away.
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11-09-2023, 11:57 AM
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#119
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
The team's expected goals against with Markstrom in net has gone up from 2.75/60 all situations last year to 3.29/60 this year. Up 20%
His hd shots against have gone up from 8.23/60 to 9.75/60. Up 18.5%.
He has to play significantly better to hold his numbers flat season over season.
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Let's not overstate things. The fact is that he's still not stopping shots at an acceptable rate (thus far) and hence not solid. As bad as last year? No, but there is a huge divide between "as bad as last year" and "solid"... a divide he has yet to bridge.
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11-09-2023, 11:58 AM
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#120
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Yeah, I just don't think Wolf is that fragile. This has always struck me as an extremely low-risk situation.
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I don't view it as much as fragile, but mostly that if he can't get locked in right away in his limited chances that he'll be viewed by fans and the team as 'not ready' and lose another full season in the AHL.
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Originally Posted by New Era
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