11-06-2023, 11:20 PM
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#101
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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For some reason I feel a burning desire to become a Sharks fan a bit later this week.
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11-07-2023, 08:44 AM
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#102
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Grier spent way too much time in Edmonton, he thinks this is the most successful season ever
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11-07-2023, 08:56 AM
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#103
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First Line Centre
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I'm all for a winless season.
But if they beat Edm this might just be the best November ever.
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11-07-2023, 10:51 AM
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#104
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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We joke but teams are not tanking for 25% chance. Not even last year. All their success and contracts for a decade just caught up to them and then rebuilding too late.
This is really bad though, they are being compared to expansion teams of the past.
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11-07-2023, 10:53 AM
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#105
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GFG#1
Best system I have heard suggested was, How many points you get from the time you are officially eliminated would determine your pick order. highest number of points would get 1st pick.
So a team might be out of it by November but are not officially eliminated until say Mid February. If they only win 3 games for the rest of the year they would have 6 points. Maybe they win more, but they would still be in the business of winning, so they couldn't just sell off and tank.
A team that gets eliminated 2.5 weeks before the end of the season wins 5 of 8 games having 10 points, so they would pick ahead of the above team.
There are probably still some flaws with this, but it in order to get the first pick you still have to be trying to win games. You can't just go trading your UFA's away for picks and prospects.
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Teams would tank to get officially eliminated faster. That would be a race.
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11-07-2023, 11:40 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SutterBrother
I'm all for a winless season.
But if they beat Edm this might just be the best November ever.
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If they lost all their games the whole year except to the oilers I don't care how badly everything else goes the season was worth it.
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11-07-2023, 01:41 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
We joke but teams are not tanking for 25% chance. Not even last year. All their success and contracts for a decade just caught up to them and then rebuilding too late.
This is really bad though, they are being compared to expansion teams of the past.
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Yeah, teams tank to try get a top 5 pick. With the lottery odds the way they are today, there’s little point in trying to finish at the absolute bottom of the standings. The Red Wings were by far the worst team in the league in 2019-20, and they drafted 4th overall.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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11-07-2023, 01:54 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Yeah, teams tank to try get a top 5 pick. With the lottery odds the way they are today, there’s little point in trying to finish at the absolute bottom of the standings. The Red Wings were by far the worst team in the league in 2019-20, and they drafted 4th overall.
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The Wings and the Canucks have had some abysmal lottery luck. But the Wings draft (mostly) at least recently.
Raymond is better than both Byfield and Lafreniere at this point. Seider could go top-3 in a redraft. But prior to that, Zadina and Veleno (who's having a good year so far) and Rasmussen and Cholowski and Svechnikov have been underwhelming.
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11-07-2023, 09:24 PM
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#110
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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They won a period...that's progress!
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11-07-2023, 10:07 PM
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#111
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: The Wranglers game, heckling Kevin
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Come on Philly, gotta let the Coilers give San Jose their first win
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11-07-2023, 10:09 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I don't know what I want to happen more: The Sharks lose tonight and get their first win on Thursday, or the Sharks win tonight and pull into a tie for last overall with the Oilers on Thursday.
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11-07-2023, 11:19 PM
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#113
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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San Jose wins their first game of the season. I'm actually thinking this makes Thursday's game with the Oilers even more interesting. The Sharks will be feeling like maybe than can win games. The Oilers will be scared.
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11-08-2023, 07:00 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Zamboniman
San Jose wins their first game of the season. I'm actually thinking this makes Thursday's game with the Oilers even more interesting. The Sharks will be feeling like maybe than can win games. The Oilers will be scared.
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A regulation win would pull this historically bad team into a tie (in points) with the Oilers, too.
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11-08-2023, 10:57 AM
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#115
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I heard some Stuff on the 1943/44 Rangers who went 6-39-5 for the 50 game season. They went 0-14-1 to start the year, than won 4 of 5 to get to 4-15-1. Than only won 2 more games in the last 30 and finished 0-17-4 in their final 21 games.
So this is where the Sharks will win all their games, sucks to be you Oilers.
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11-08-2023, 11:02 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
I heard some Stuff on the 1943/44 Rangers who went 6-39-5 for the 50 game season. They went 0-14-1 to start the year, than won 4 of 5 to get to 4-15-1. Than only won 2 more games in the last 30 and finished 0-17-4 in their final 21 games.
So this is where the Sharks will win all their games, sucks to be you Oilers.
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I hadn't heard about that team.
I keep thinking about the Washington Capitals' first year in the league. 8-67-5.... 8 wins! They won 10% of their games....
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11-08-2023, 11:12 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
I hadn't heard about that team.
I keep thinking about the Washington Capitals' first year in the league. 8-67-5.... 8 wins! They won 10% of their games....
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Bill Mikkelson (yes Meghan and Brendan's dad) was -82 that year! mind you he was -53 with the Islanders the year before, so it's possible he was part of the problem
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11-08-2023, 01:20 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Grier seems incompetent. The team needs veterans to shelter the youngins and help the goalies a bit. Not more giveaways which Addison is good at. Sharks need to tank. Sharks will lose 8-3 now vs 5-1. Yay. And he loses a 5th when he could have used a 7th.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1722346829109461364
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11-08-2023, 01:55 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Teams would tank to get officially eliminated faster. That would be a race.
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The most out there draft idea I heard was that at the end of the year (or beginning of the season) the team who finished last (32nd) would have to pick another team (can't pick themselves) and where ever they finish, that is their position in the next draft.
This is brilliant for three reasons.
1. Tanking is gone, you have every reason not to improve
2. Worst teams still get much better odds for who they pick
3. Gives the fans another team to watch or actively cheer for/against teams that they would have never cared to watch
It is so out there but would be so much fun hate watching another team.
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11-08-2023, 02:47 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
I hadn't heard about that team.
I keep thinking about the Washington Capitals' first year in the league. 8-67-5.... 8 wins! They won 10% of their games....
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The 1980/81 Jets started the year 1-2-1 and then never won again until Christmas, starting the season 1-25-7.
They finished the year with 32 points, and then drafted Dale Hawerchuk, and the next year they got 80 points.
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