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Old 06-11-2023, 12:10 PM   #101
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Four are still on the team and some were traded for each other

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Not really.

Extending Huberdeau and Weegar in the summer before waiting to see how they fit and how the team played was a mistake - it removed any flexibility they might have had, it cost them at least two 1st round picks, and combined with the Kadri signing, has locked up nearly 30% of their cap.

I don’t think Conroy’s going to make that same mistake with Lindholm and Hanifin.
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Old 06-11-2023, 12:13 PM   #102
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Not really.

Extending Huberdeau and Weegar in the summer before waiting to see how they fit and how the team played was a mistake - it removed any flexibility they might have had, it cost them at least two 1st round picks, and combined with the Kadri signing, has locked up nearly 30% of their cap.

I don’t think Conroy’s going to make that same mistake with Lindholm and Hanifin.
In hindsight yes for Hubby, but no for Weegar.

I would say that Weegar would likely get a better contract today than he actually has.

Hubby, for sure. But there is risk either way.
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Not really.

Extending Huberdeau and Weegar in the summer before waiting to see how they fit and how the team played was a mistake -
That's easy to say in hindsight. There was no way they were going to wait and see how they did in the season. It was sign or trade them in the summer. I wasn't against flipping them but was also pumped when they signed. Could you imagine the uproar if Huebrdeau had a 100pt season and then walked.
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I would be ok with Hanifin for Scheifele.
Leave that guy in Winnipeg or let him go somewhere else. He's no good.
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I would be ok with Hanifin for Scheifele.
Guy is a weirdo who doesn't swear and has a bad attitude. No thanks
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Old 06-11-2023, 12:27 PM   #106
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Yes he said he wants to stay and become a bigger part of the team as a leader and mentioned guys in his age range who need to step up as well I'm assuming he meant Dube and Mang.

Those 3 guys are in their prime.
I think if the Flames did trade Hanifin, their lack of D depth would be exposed pretty quickly.

Interesting to think what they could get for him, he’s a high value asset. But I think extending him is the preferred choice.
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For me, you either re-sign the two guys from Carolina or you sell off both guys.

If Conroy receives an offer he can't refuse he might as well go for a haul now while he appears to be a hot commodity.
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Old 06-11-2023, 12:33 PM   #108
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I expect Hanifin will be signed to an extension, same with Lindholm. I think the Flames will move on from Backlund and Tanev for sure, possibly Vladar as well.
I’m not so sure about Backlund. I think he stays too. He’s still here in town, or at least he was about a week ago. I would resign him as well in the $4-4.5 range for three more years.
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For me, you either re-sign the two guys from Carolina or you sell off both guys.



If Conroy receives an offer he can't refuse he might as well go for a haul now while he appears to be a hot commodity.
Why must it be both? Why not sign one and trade the other?

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Again when people include Gio in this list it is kinda dumb.
EVERY team lost someone in the expansion draft. If they had traded Gio they would have lost someone like Kylington.

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I’m not so sure about Backlund. I think he stays too. He’s still here in town, or at least he was about a week ago. I would resign him as well in the $4-4.5 range for three more years.
I am hearing more and more from different sources and even Francis has speculated that Rasmus Andersson will be next Flames Captain. I don't think Backlund wants to stay, I think him and Conroy will work together to land him on a roster with a better chance at a SC. I would not be shocked if he ends up in Toronto.
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Why must it be both? Why not sign one and trade the other?

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I would imagine Conroy is up to his eyeballs on several scenarios. Trading one or both or niether or extending both are likely being evaluated right now.
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Reverse Brad Treliving special;

Hanifin to Detroit for a first and two seconds. First being the 17th from the Islanders.

Who says no?
The value is fair. But not sure where he’d fit in the Wings depth chart. Walman has broken out and is locked in at LD on the top pair with Seider. Maatta was just signed to an extension. And Edvinsson is their top prospect and will be likely be their #2 LD in a couple years.
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Not really.

Extending Huberdeau and Weegar in the summer before waiting to see how they fit and how the team played was a mistake - it removed any flexibility they might have had, it cost them at least two 1st round picks, and combined with the Kadri signing, has locked up nearly 30% of their cap.

I don’t think Conroy’s going to make that same mistake with Lindholm and Hanifin.
This is where I’m at.

Weegar and Kadri signed takes away the extension of Hanifin and Lindholm. Of course we all think Lindholm > Kadri but we already dug our own grave. Huberdeau replaced Gaudreau.

No matter how we slice it I think Lindholm and Hanifin are to be traded. And, if teamS, just just a team, but a few teams are out there for Hanifin you need to get a bidding war and get the best offer for him.
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The value is fair. But not sure where he’d fit in the Wings depth chart. Walman has broken out and is locked in at LD on the top pair with Seider. Maatta was just signed to an extension. And Edvinsson is their top prospect and will be likely be their #2 LD in a couple years.
Well, Maata has two years left. Hanifin is a big upgrade on Maata, I’d say. I think he fits well there in their lineup and their trajectory given his age.

My preference would be to resign Hanifin though.

Nm, missed that Edvinsson was LHS D. Could complicate things.

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That's a paddlin'.

The only place you can swear is in the Super Mega Weather Thread (apparently).
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Well, if the guy you're losing is Lindholm then the team will be forced into a teardown no matter what they do, so you might as well ship off Hanifin and get even younger talent.

I suppose you can keep Hanifin. But if you can get a younger Hanifin and other pieces for him then you might as well go that route.

Hanifin is steady but not great, so i dont see him as a rare find or anything, and I think he may be getting overvalued by some outside teams. So why not capitalize.

With Kylington returning to the fold it hurts a little less to potentially deal Hanifin (and at peak value).
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Hanifin + Vladar for Nylander + something is my guess
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Boy…. That something better be pretty good.
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