[Rumour] Assistant General Managers Craig Conroy and Don Maloney extended

[Paulie Walnuts]

The extension for Sutter was dumb knowing his history and how he would mesh with this group of players.

The organization always seems to have a bad contract linger around and this time its the coach.

I can't imagine Edwards watching that season and seeing his buddy Darryl sewer his 84 million dollar investment and saying lets run it back.

I hope he cashed in that CNRL stock last year when it was in the 80s.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

There's 8 million reasons Sutter ain't going anywhere. Not sure why this is so hard to comprehend for some people.

A dollar isn't a good reason.

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

well there could be 126 million reasons why you want to keep Kadri and Huberdeau happy. I don't think this is that straight forward.

Let me know when Sutter's trade eligibility details become known

[Savvy27]

One thing that I don't see being considered very much here is the possibility that management, coaches, and players might be able to work out a new understanding and approach after this season's failure

We all speculate that Sutter is unwilling or unable to change how he operates, but honestly I don't know if you can be a Hall of Fame coach if you're incapable of adapting

My feeling is that Sutter did not believe in the team assembled by Treliving and decided that they needed to play like a low skill team that would do everything to control the puck and win without relying on individual skill and creativity. But that didn't fit with the roster that Treliving put together or with the personalities of the players brought in.

Maybe Sutter can hear from the GM and the players and realize that he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole and change things up?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I would imagine that the Flames assistant coaches get the axe, or at least Kirk Muller

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

Let me know when Sutter's trade eligibility details become known

Well I guarantee the damage caused by trading Huberdeau and Kadri when their value is at their lowest would be greater than just eating the sunk cost of Darryl's salary.

[ResAlien]

I like it. Bring ‘em all back because if this season showed anything it’s that this current mix of players, coaches, and management is a perfect combination like Mr Pibb plus Red Vines.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

One thing that I don't see being considered very much here is the possibility that management, coaches, and players might be able to work out a new understanding and approach after this season's failure

We all speculate that Sutter is unwilling or unable to change how he operates, but honestly I don't know if you can be a Hall of Fame coach if you're incapable of adapting

My feeling is that Sutter did not believe in the team assembled by Treliving and decided that they needed to play like a low skill team that would do everything to control the puck and win without relying on individual skill and creativity. But that didn't fit with the roster that Treliving put together or with the personalities of the players brought in.

Maybe Sutter can hear from the GM and the players and realize that he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole and change things up?

Or it could be that goaltending was so bad (.890 save percentage, 7th worst in the NHL) that he had to adapt and lock everything down to limit scoring chances as much as possible.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

One thing that I don't see being considered very much here is the possibility that management, coaches, and players might be able to work out a new understanding and approach after this season's failure

We all speculate that Sutter is unwilling or unable to change how he operates, but honestly I don't know if you can be a Hall of Fame coach if you're incapable of adapting

My feeling is that Sutter did not believe in the team assembled by Treliving and decided that they needed to play like a low skill team that would do everything to control the puck and win without relying on individual skill and creativity. But that didn't fit with the roster that Treliving put together or with the personalities of the players brought in.

Maybe Sutter can hear from the GM and the players and realize that he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole and change things up?

Yes because turning a 115 point player who the offence should have run through into a grinder was what is best for this team.

You don't pay someone 84 million over 8 years to be a checker he is a star and needed the rope to play like one like other teams do.

He keeps whining about not having the horsepower so we have to play this ugly style, well we did have it he just didn't allow them to flourish.

Huberdeau would be the best player on Seattle Vegas and LA 3 of the playoff teams, if he was allowed to be the best player on Calgary we would probably be in a playoff spot.

All the pacific playoff teams finished top 10 in goals for and thats why we are not in the playoffs the goals against we had the 2nd best.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Or it could be that goaltending was so bad (.890 save percentage, 7th worst in the NHL) that he had to adapt and lock everything down to limit scoring chances as much as possible.

Yup. Coach won’t matter next season either if Flames get bottom of the league goaltending again.

[hillspeak]

Should we start getting nervous if Rich "Rocco" Preston is hired in the next few days as a special assistant and Rob Cookson is hired as video coach?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by zamler

"Your performance over the last 10 years has been poor"

"Yes but I have 10 years experience"

Not sure what was going on this year, but hard to argue the man's resume. And it's not distant he won coach of the year last season.

[skcli]

Bringing Sutter back will help to build the new arena to host more concerts, thank you

[Jason14h]

As much as goaltending was horrific - and it was - our 5-5 play wasn’t pretty good

If we had a PP we also would have been fine

But if you have to lock it down and play defensive to suppress shots AND can’t score on the PP consistently you are in big trouble offensively

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by CFO

Now fire coaches (all) and go hire Andrew brunette as coach (regardless of a golf cart DUI)

No, I'd rather bring Love up instead. What has Brunette done that has shown he's a good coach?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They may also be waiting for Mitch Love’s season to end before making front office announcements.

That's gonna be for a while cos Wranglers are going all the way.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yes because turning a 115 point player who the offence should have run through into a grinder was what is best for this team.

You don't pay someone 84 million over 8 years to be a checker he is a star and needed the rope to play like one like other teams do.

He keeps whining about not having the horsepower so we have to play this ugly style, well we did have it he just didn't allow them to flourish.

Huberdeau would be the best player on Seattle Vegas and LA 3 of the playoff teams, if he was allowed to be the best player on Calgary we would probably be in a playoff spot.

All the pacific playoff teams finished top 10 in goals for and thats why we are not in the playoffs the goals against we had the 2nd best.

They had a terrible powerplay, but they were 8th five on five in goals scored.

Offence was fine. Powerplay was awful.

I'd put Sutter at about 10% of Huberdeau's issues ... 75% between his ears.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Or it could be that goaltending was so bad (.890 save percentage, 7th worst in the NHL) that he had to adapt and lock everything down to limit scoring chances as much as possible.

Fair. Though to some extent it backfired because they would limit and Markstrom and Vladar got cold at the beginning of games and then they blew the good chances that arose suddenly. It was almost like they should have allowed more (but easier) shots.

Anyway, yes, goaltending, which has little to do with what Sutter does, affects both his strategy and how we see his strategy.

Every coach is going to have flaws.

[topfiverecords]

The answers are in the room.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

They had a terrible powerplay, but they were 8th five on five in goals scored.

Offence was fine. Powerplay was awful.

I'd put Sutter at about 10% of Huberdeau's issues ... 75% between his ears.

13th in even strength goals so no the offence wasn't fine, it could have been a lot better if he didn't staple him to Kadris wing or play a system with a bunch of rush shots and players not making the extra plays.

He misused a star player and it cost us a playoff spot. But he won't take the blame.