2023 Academy Awards

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

Puss in Boots 2. I went in expecting absolutely nothing but a few laughs (I like the Shrek Universes take on fairy tales) and left after an amazingly animated movie spoke right to me and the issues I'm facing as a middle-aged/aging person. From what is technically supposed to be a kids movie, and a sequel to boot. It also had one of the best villians I have seen in a movie in a long, long time.

I didn't see it as being that good, but I do agree, it was very surprising, especially compared to what I was expecting. I almost didn't want my 5 year old to watch it because the conflict seemed too real and the villain was too scary. That speaks to the quality and depth they put into it.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Movie critics today regard Citizen Kane as the greatest film of all time and it didn't even win beat picture that year it went to How Green Was my Valley . Godfather is considered maybe the 2nd greatest movie ever after Citizen Kane and won 3 Oscars, but Cabaret that same year won 8.

Solid point about Oscar recognition not being indicative of classic film status. Surely next you'll point to Pulp F-

Star Wars lost to Ghandi for Best Picture.

Well... yeah. Star Wars had a poor script and some extremely hammy acting while Gandhi had one of the best acting performances of the decade. So... obviously it did. Well, okay, one bad example isn't fatal to your argum-

The Dark Knight wasn't even nominated for best picture and it's regarded as one of the greatest movies in the last 20 years.

What the... what kind of paint-sniffing moron thinks Dark Knight is one of the greatest movies of the last 20 - ...oh. Right.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Boomer humor always involved butt plugs and hot dog fingers. It is known.

The best part about discussing movies is when someone doesn’t like a movie a lot of other people do so to cover for feeling left out they desperately try to figure out some fault in the people that liked it.

I’m not even being sarcastic. It’s funny every time.

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Solid point about Oscar recognition not being indicative of classic film status. Surely next you'll point to Pulp F-

Well... yeah. Star Wars had a poor script and some extremely hammy acting while Gandhi had one of the best acting performances of the decade. So... obviously it did. Well, okay, one bad example isn't fatal to your argum-

What the... what kind of paint-sniffing moron thinks Dark Knight is one of the greatest movies of the last 20 - ...oh. Right.

Look Ghandi is one of my favorite films of all time, it's a masterpiece, and I like it better than Star Wars. BUT in terms of cultural influence and it's influence on cinema and movie history, Star Wars is one of the most influential movies ever. In the Sci fi genre there is pre Star Wars and there is post Star Wars. Logan's Run was nominated for best special effects at the Oscars the previous year and if you watch the two together you will notice a vast difference. Sci fi films would not be where they are today had Star Wars never come out.

Also yes The Dark Knight is one of the greatest movies ever, maybe not to you but to a lot of critics and fans it's a masterpiece up there with the best crime dramas ever put to screen.

And lastly, why are you so worked up, were talking about movies, it's supposed to be fun.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Look Ghandi is one of my favorite films of all time, it's a masterpiece, and I like it better than Star Wars. BUT in terms of cultural influence and it's influence on cinema and movie history, Star Wars is one of the most influential movies ever. In the Sci fi genre there is pre Star Wars and there is post Star Wars. Logan's Run was nominated for best special effects at the Oscars the previous year and if you watch the two together you will notice a vast difference. Sci fi films would not be where they are today had Star Wars never come out.



Also yes The Dark Knight is one of the greatest movies ever, maybe not to you but to a lot of critics and fans it's a masterpiece up there with the best crime dramas ever put to screen.



And lastly, why are you so worked up, were talking about movies, it's supposed to be fun.

But not enough to spell it right.

[Nadal Fan]

I'm just off today I apologize, first off yes you are correct I should have spelt it correctly. And 2ndly it wasn't Gandhi that beat Star Wars it was Annie Hall. I have yet to see Annie Hall but my point still stands between the two which is more culturally relevant. I swore I heard Gandhi beat Star Wars for best picture but in fact it was ET. Between the two I think Gandhi deserved best picture that year. Mistakes happen, carry on without me, I'll see myself out now

[Fuzz]

OK, now apologize for saying The Dark Knight is one of the greatest movies ever.

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

OK, now apologize for saying The Dark Knight is one of the greatest movies ever.

[Matata]

The Dark Knight is one iconic performance and a some great action sequences surrounded by a bland, silly movie.

Cinema is in decline and only excels as a medium for visual spectacle now. Which is why Top Gun should have cleaned house.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

Star Wars lost to Ghandi for Best Picture.

Star Wars came out in 1977; Gandhi came out in 1982. WTF are you talking about?

(For the record, Star Wars lost 'Best Picture' to Annie Hall.)

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by timun

Star Wars came out in 1977; Gandhi came out in 1982. WTF are you talking about?

(For the record, Star Wars lost 'Best Picture' to Annie Hall.)

Your absolutely right I got completely confused, my bad. I caught it and mentioned that I was thinking about ET.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Torture

Impossible, I thought we were still in the stage of writing articles about millenials destroying everything and treating the generation as if millenials were all 20 rather than adults with jobs, children, and responsibilities?

We're right at the tipping point between Millennials being everything wrong about the young and being everything wrong about the old.

The New York Times had a piece this week about millennials and mid life crisis

[Locke]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

We're right at the tipping point between Millennials being everything wrong about the young and being everything wrong about the old.

The New York Times had a piece this week about millennials and mid life crisis

And I for one am here to watch that Jenga Tower fall.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I have nothing more to add other than to say that Annie Hall is a spectacular film, one of my all time favorites.

Now please don't bring up the issues with Woody Allen the person. We all know. I still think he's one of the greatest filmmakers ever.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I have nothing more to add other than to say that Annie Hall is a spectacular film, one of my all time favorites.

Now please don't bring up the issues with Woody Allen the person. We all know. I still think he's one of the greatest filmmakers ever.

I too find the most effective method of ensuring nobody brings up a topic is to remind everyone that topic exists.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

EEAAO was fun and enjoyable. I wasn't bored for a second and really enjoyed the performances.

It hit my wife like a ton of bricks however, being the daughter of Chinese immigrants.

Probably worth mentioning that to some people representation in this manner can elevate certain films. Being a curmudgeonly middle-aged white guy who hates fun probably takes you out of the target demo.

This exactly

I think people who have relational difficulties/trouble putting themselves in the shoes of characters of a different background, or who have little or no knowledge of dynamics within those cultures might struggle with giving af about a film like EEAAO.

Some things that are relatively meaningless within white 2nd-3rd generation north American families are a much bigger deal in traditional immigrant households. There is a stark contrast in values and it presents a lot of conflict between elders and their children who are trying to fit into the more progressive culture in America.

And that's why it probably would hit closer to home for those viewers.

I think it's perfectly okay to not like it. But the basis for some of these reviews is so dismissive that it's laughable. Rolling all aspects of the film up into a ball and labeling it trash when there were some objectively strong aspects to the film regardless of its personal appeal tells me that some posters are pretty ignorant when they decide something isn't their type of thing. And they probably aren't the best cadidates to give a level headed evaluation because they can't separate their personal biases from their observations.

I just feel like you can't properly judge something with merit unless you give it an honest chance. That means more than the 5-10 before you made up your mind.

So it wasn't for you. That doesn't mean it was garbage in every aspect. And the numbers of awards that went to it and the performers strongly support the counter argument.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I too find the most effective method of ensuring nobody brings up a topic is to remind everyone that topic exists.

I take your point.

It's just the automatic response these days when discussing anyone who has a problematic personal life. Nobody can seem to separate the two. If I say Roman Polanski, what is the first thing that everyone thinks about?

No conversation can be had about the merits of someone's work without discussing every horrible mistake they made as a person. I mean, it's pretty hilarious knowing we all have terrible secrets that we hope nobody ever finds out about.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

"I was bored"

Says more about you than the piece of work you're 'evaluating'

"I was bored"

Might be the flimsiest argument you can make for why something was objectively poor

If you're going to show up to be the peanut gallery for something, at least be a competent one lol

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Next Year’s Oscar Inclusion Rules Are Already Sparking Debate

While the standards are well-intentioned, some producers say gathering data is confusing and bumps up against privacy law: "How are we going to know who’s gay when it’s illegal to ask?"

The questions are part of the Academy’s new representation and inclusion standards for Oscar eligibility (RAISE), which the organization started rolling out in 2021 in preparation for making certain benchmarks mandatory by next year’s awards season. The goal is to spur more inclusive hiring in the film business, but some producers who are trying to comply say the process is cumbersome at best and privacy invading at worst.

“The intention is commendable, but a lot of the questions I felt uncomfortable asking,” says another producer. “I wasn’t going to write to all the actors and ask what their sexual orientation is. And if it’s not something offered up on their bio, are you really going to say, ‘Hey, are you disabled?’ “

When the new rules go into effect for next year’s Oscars, they will require that a film meet two of four inclusion standards to be eligible for best picture.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...te-1235343128/


It goes on to list all the requirements. Every category has at least one way to meet the minimum that seems pretty easy. They also allow studios to submit data anonymously to avoid the privacy issues, so it’s gonna be impossible to audit fully like they claim they will do.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Well that seems like a colossally terrible idea.

"Hey, can you just go ahead and divulge all your private yet category defining details? We need to hit our quota"

Some of those things are protected by HIPAA

Gross.